Its getting very quiet on here. .... .. .. .
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The site was a lot busier before the property discussion thread was locked and lots of people were banned
Anyway there are good news stories
This week:
Dublin: 105 jobs announced by Airtricity
Cork: 30 construction jobs for Yves Rocher as they build their facility and they need staff for the clean room after that. QA people I would think
Galway: Synchronoss, a telecoms firm announced 50 jobs
Kildare: Hewlett-Packard wants 50 call centre staff for Microsoft support work but you'd wonder do we have Irish people with the language skills, possibly
You'll see how cosmetic/medical/clean room companies cluster in Cork and there are Telecoms companies in Galway
All good jobs and some can be filled before Christmas
Anyway there are good news stories
This week:
Dublin: 105 jobs announced by Airtricity
Cork: 30 construction jobs for Yves Rocher as they build their facility and they need staff for the clean room after that. QA people I would think
Galway: Synchronoss, a telecoms firm announced 50 jobs
Kildare: Hewlett-Packard wants 50 call centre staff for Microsoft support work but you'd wonder do we have Irish people with the language skills, possibly
You'll see how cosmetic/medical/clean room companies cluster in Cork and there are Telecoms companies in Galway
All good jobs and some can be filled before Christmas
I agree that it has been quiet lately.
Maybe because people have given up hope that anything will change.
No matter what we do we don't seem to be able to make the government listen.
For example;
There will be no PS reform.
PS union have already said no to giving up the Half hour,they were given for changing cheques.. that's just one example that really makes me think,you know what let them just go ahead and continue on the way they are.
FF will not tackle the unions( recession or boom) what they are doing is buying time until the next election ,keeping the PS on their side ,with a guarented 600 thousand votes,giving them some seats,as they know they are goners.
They will then let FG/Labour try to clean up the mess,knowing they wont/cant either,and also they know that Europe will put a huge amount of pressure on Fg?Labour to take the hard decisions,while FF sit across from them,claiming to have clean hands..ie; FF will say,oh we wouldn't have done that.
I think a lot of us know that nothing will change..I have heard only one person in politics talking about making the hard calls and that's Leo Varadker,but unless he gets support from other polititians,hes fighting a losing battle,as turkeys don't vote for Christmas...
Maybe because people have given up hope that anything will change.
No matter what we do we don't seem to be able to make the government listen.
For example;
There will be no PS reform.
PS union have already said no to giving up the Half hour,they were given for changing cheques.. that's just one example that really makes me think,you know what let them just go ahead and continue on the way they are.
FF will not tackle the unions( recession or boom) what they are doing is buying time until the next election ,keeping the PS on their side ,with a guarented 600 thousand votes,giving them some seats,as they know they are goners.
They will then let FG/Labour try to clean up the mess,knowing they wont/cant either,and also they know that Europe will put a huge amount of pressure on Fg?Labour to take the hard decisions,while FF sit across from them,claiming to have clean hands..ie; FF will say,oh we wouldn't have done that.
I think a lot of us know that nothing will change..I have heard only one person in politics talking about making the hard calls and that's Leo Varadker,but unless he gets support from other polititians,hes fighting a losing battle,as turkeys don't vote for Christmas...
You hit the nail on the head. Every conversation I have concludes with that, no matter what walk of life or profession I am talking with. Nobody has any hope that things will change here.
I expect things to change big time to be honest.
I can see myself paying more taxes in the next 5 or 10 yrs, be they water tax, property tax, VAT increases etc, but I am prepared to take the hit if its for the good, and that the Gov finally make a proper effort at turning things round, rather than just lip service.
Rather that for me than the IMF.
As for it getting quiet, maybe people are discovering that no matter how much you rant on a forum, its like talking to yourself in the end. Waste of time.
I can see myself paying more taxes in the next 5 or 10 yrs, be they water tax, property tax, VAT increases etc, but I am prepared to take the hit if its for the good, and that the Gov finally make a proper effort at turning things round, rather than just lip service.
Rather that for me than the IMF.
As for it getting quiet, maybe people are discovering that no matter how much you rant on a forum, its like talking to yourself in the end. Waste of time.
I'm wary of reading any more threads that just wallow in more and more misery. I'm sick of the blame thing at this stage - if I cant act on it I'm not going to worry about it. So positive actions are:
1. Dont vote FF when the opportunity next arises.
2. Be prudent with spending.
3. Suck up the budgetary pain, forget about it, move on, keep a positive outlook and be thankful for all I do have (health, family, job, ok financially - subject to job).
Now maybe that makes me a lamb, but the French version of dealing with national problems leads nowhere and further damages the country.
As someone posted lately, "Life isnt about waiting for the storm to pass, its about learning to dance in the rain".
1. Dont vote FF when the opportunity next arises.
2. Be prudent with spending.
3. Suck up the budgetary pain, forget about it, move on, keep a positive outlook and be thankful for all I do have (health, family, job, ok financially - subject to job).
Now maybe that makes me a lamb, but the French version of dealing with national problems leads nowhere and further damages the country.
As someone posted lately, "Life isnt about waiting for the storm to pass, its about learning to dance in the rain".
My wife used a phrase yesterday that I hadn't heard before ..
Budget Porn
That's what passes for analysis and commentary these days. Is it 14bn or 15bn or more, what's being cut, who's losing out, who's escaping the axe ?
If I never see another tweet from an hysterical economist about a change in the 10 year bond yields, I'll survive
.I just can't be arsed to read the papers to the same extent I once did. I'm back listening to music radio, after years of listening to talk radio.
Wake me up on Dec 8th and let me know what has been decided. Until then, I've had enough of the speculation and the conjecture and the pointing fingers.
My wife used a phrase yesterday that I hadn't heard before ..
Budget Porn
That's what passes for analysis and commentary these days. Is it 14bn or 15bn or more, what's being cut, who's losing out, who's escaping the axe ?
If I never see another tweet from an hysterical economist about a change in the 10 year bond yields, I'll survive
I just can't be arsed to read the papers to the same extent I once did. I'm back listening to music radio, after years of listening to talk radio.
Wake me up on Dec 8th and let me know what has been decided. Until then, I've had enough of the speculation and the conjecture and the pointing fingers.
A BIG + 1 to that.
Although, I will add that depending on the form any property tax may take, I will resist that with every fibre in body.
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How?
You do realise that an annual property tax is economically sensible and superior to increasing other taxes.
gut reaction is that its tough to charge tax where there isnt necessarily the money to pay for it. Most other taxes like income or capital gains are on the basis of taking a slice of what you are taking in. This would be just taking regardless of what, if anything, is coming in. Also gift and inheritance tax is at a time when you are gaining, ok it may not all be liquid and you might have to sell something to fund the tax (which can be awkward) but at least, overall, your "store" has increased.
Are they going to tax PPR's? Havent people done enough to pay stamp duty, then tax on income to be able to repay mortgages and interest for banks (on which limited relief). I'd be more in favour of trimming PPR CGT relief, Ag Relief, Bus Property relief etc., all of which kick in when you're either selling or getting something for undervalue.
Just taxing regardless seems to me to be bleeding people dry.
Disagree completely. It makes a mockery of 'stamp duty'.
Look, obviously we're all going to have to pay whatever, in whatever format it is deilvered to us but there are far more palatable ways than a 'property tax'. People are not going to like it.
Is there a sarcasm emoticon missing here ?
What about ability to pay ? Is this not a tenet of a equitible taxation system ? A levy based on a PPR, regardless of income, is not, IMHO, sensible.