Is there any difference between these 2 ceiling paints ?

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https://www.screwfix.ie/p/dulux-mat...tr/1013v#product_additional_details_container

https://www.woodies.ie/dulux-ceilin...655a24fc38b4c&indexName=prod_default_products .

One is an emulsion for walls and ceilings, the other is a specific emulsion for ceilings.
One is €31.95, the other is €52.95, albeit in different shops.
Both are Dulux 10 Ltr pure brilliant white matt emulsions, both have the same coverage per litre and the same drying time.
The only difference I can see is the dearer specific ceiling paint can be applied by spray or roller, I will be applying by roller regardless.
If the specific ceiling paint is better I will pay the extra €21.
Anyone know if specific ceiling paint is better for some reason to paint ceilings ?
 
Sometimes its sold as Trade paint &, in theory at least, they claim the Trade version has greater coverage / opacity.

Not convinced myself.

Personally I'm a huge fan of Colourtrend paint.
 
Des Pondent said:
https://www.screwfix.ie/p/dulux-mat...tr/1013v#product_additional_details_container

https://www.woodies.ie/dulux-ceilin...655a24fc38b4c&indexName=prod_default_products .

One is an emulsion for walls and ceilings, the other is a specific emulsion for ceilings.
One is €31.95, the other is €52.95, albeit in different shops.
Both are Dulux 10 Ltr pure brilliant white matt emulsions, both have the same coverage per litre and the same drying time.
The only difference I can see is the dearer specific ceiling paint can be applied by spray or roller, I will be applying by roller regardless.
If the specific ceiling paint is better I will pay the extra €21.
Anyone know if specific ceiling paint is better for some reason to paint ceilings ?
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Dulux Magic Paint White is fantastic for ceilings. It goes on pink and drys white. Eliminates shadows and great coverage.
 
According to Dulux, ceiling paint is formulated to reduce splashing, which is an issue when using a roller over your head to be fair. If you’re painting a ceiling where splashes don’t matter then probably no point spending the extra and in-fact you can go cheaper again for the likes of this - https://www.woodies.ie/dulux-total-...59ceb3fe94baa&indexName=prod_default_products

If you’re painting walls then the extra would be better spent on vinyl matt or EasyCare where marks can be cleaned off more successfully.
 
I went around that loop a few years ago and eventually settled on a third Dulux product (sorry that probably the last thing you wanted to hear!!) :

https://www.mdoshea.ie/dulux-supermatt-brilliant-white-10l

It’s in between the other two price wise. I found it excelling in terms of (1) coverage (2) remaining consistently viscous during application (3) not splashing/spraying when using a roller (4) covering both previously painted and unpainted (but prepared) bare plaster (5) colour consistency from one bucket to the next. I’ve used it on ceilings throughout the house and had no issues.

For walls I’m with @DannyBoyD regarding Colourtrend. I use their Ceramic Matt on all walls, it’s close to indestructible when marks etc need to be washed, and I’ve touched it up on a number of occasions and it matches perfectly, almost unnoticeable. Downside is that it is more difficult to work.
 
DannyBoyD said:
I've never found that myself & I've used it with brush, roller & sprayer (my favourite).
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Agree about them being good to work with though bit punchy price wise. 10l costing 150 euros if I remember correctly. Dulux 10l was 100. Both of these were magnolia type colours and mixed on site from white base.

Talking about ceiling paint I have zinniser ceiling paint pricey but was good as had a few stains to cover.
 
We have an issue with the ceiling paint peeling and flaking in the busiest shower room. It was repainted in 2018 and is as bad as ever. Any recommendations for a damp proof ceiling paint?
 
Slim said:
We have an issue with the ceiling paint peeling and flaking in the busiest shower room. It was repainted in 2018 and is as bad as ever. Any recommendations for a damp proof ceiling paint?
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This has been a constant problem for me as a landlord. Including black mould. Is your room aired adequately after every shower. Is your extractor extra strong, is it suitable for a space where there are lots of showers, is the room properly heated.
 
Bronte said:
This has been a constant problem for me as a landlord. Including black mould. Is your room aired adequately after every shower. Is your extractor extra strong, is it suitable for a space where there are lots of showers, is the room properly heated.
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Well, the window is always opened during or after a shower. The extractor fan is probably just average. There are 2 showers taken every evening.
 
Slim said:
Well, the window is always opened during or after a shower. The extractor fan is probably just average. There are 2 showers taken every evening.
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Ideally the extraction and source of fresh air (window) would form a path that crosses the shower area that produces the steam. Most standard shower extractors are poor in my experience.
 
Leo said:
Ideally the extraction and source of fresh air (window) would form a path that crosses the shower area that produces the steam. Most standard shower extractors are poor in my experience.
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Any extractor I put in a rental or that was already there was very poor, as you said. It doesn't seem to be an issue in ordinary houses as homeowners always open the windows.

Presumably if you pay more and ask for a more powerful one it exists. Ideally tied to the electric switch, and even that can be an issue, some are too long on and some way too short. For rentals the longer the better. As most tenants don't bother to open the window. Ever in some cases. (a poster recently on here mentioned how the windows were wedged shut due to never being opened). Are you saying that the extractor, even a really good one, will not work unless there is fresh air from an open window? I thought the extractor was in place of the open window.
 
Bronte said:
Presumably if you pay more and ask for a more powerful one it exists. Ideally tied to the electric switch, and even that can be an issue, some are too long on and some way too short.
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Yes, good ones will have a higher rate of extraction (specified in cubic meters per hour), and adjustable run-on timers. You can also get ones that will sense the humidity levels and run as required.
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Are you saying that the extractor, even a really good one, will not work unless there is fresh air from an open window? I thought the extractor was in place of the open window.
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It doesn't necessarily require an open window, but for extraction to be effective, it needs to pull dry air in to the space to replace what it is pushing out. Imagine trying to suck all the air out of a bottle, doesn't matter how much effort you employ, without a means for replacement air to enter most of that force is wasted. A fan capable of extracting 50 m³/hr can only do so if there is a means of allowing that volume of air enter the space without restriction. The smaller the means of air entering the space, the less that fan will actually pull out.
 
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