Paul O Mahoney
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Well if you have Covid you won't be vaccinated and when you are vaccinated you still won't be protected for quite a while and could still get covid.I wouldn't have thought family reporting deaths would not have been the reason as department are surely telling family it is a covid related death and not the other way around.Also what I mean about the figures not stacking up is why are death figures still so high when our most vunerable should be nearly all vaccinated by now and that the case figures are so low our daily deaths should also be back where they were last year .It's the moving around of deaths and cases which also gives hints of cover up. Personally I'm keeping eye or trying to on deaths in relation to case numbers and vaccinated numbers and it's so far so bad
By the same token that means the deaths for e.g. December at the time were 'lower' than they actually were, so what possible agenda could be served by any deliberate 'moving around'? There was no double reporting, it's just a timing thing.I wouldn't have thought family reporting deaths would not have been the reason as department are surely telling family it is a covid related death and not the other way around.Also what I mean about the figures not stacking up is why are death figures still so high when our most vunerable should be nearly all vaccinated by now and that the case figures are so low our daily deaths should also be back where they were last year .It's the moving around of deaths and cases which also gives hints of cover up. Personally I'm keeping eye or trying to on deaths in relation to case numbers and vaccinated numbers and it's so far so bad
It's a weird kind of cover up when the detail is readily available for anyone who can be bothered to read past the headline.By the same token that means the deaths for e.g. December at the time were 'lower' than they actually were, so what possible agenda could be served by any deliberate 'moving around'? There was no double reporting, it's just a timing thing.
To suggest a cover up is simply absurd.
If anything, the cover up would be hiding deaths by not reporting them because they weren't reported promptly.
The people who get stirred up by things generally don't read past the headlines.It's a weird kind of cover up when the detail is readily available for anyone who can be bothered to read past the headline.
I wouldn't have thought family reporting deaths would not have been the reason as department are surely telling family it is a covid related death and not the other way around.Also what I mean about the figures not stacking up is why are death figures still so high when our most vunerable should be nearly all vaccinated by now and that the case figures are so low our daily deaths should also be back where they were last year .It's the moving around of deaths and cases which also gives hints of cover up. Personally I'm keeping eye or trying to on deaths in relation to case numbers and vaccinated numbers and it's so far so bad
That doesn't say much for the ability of Public Health Ireland or any other body to track outbreaks from an epidemiological perspective though, does it? I would have thought that deaths due to a transmissible disease would haver to be reported. It's not like granny taking a neck-first tumble down the stairs.I read a report a while back that stated about 40% of Covid deaths here are occurring outside of hospitals. Many of those will be in nursing homes (public and private), so with the system allowing 3 months for submission of notifications, the department simply can't know what they don't know.
Outbreaks from an epidemiological perspective are not tracked by identifying deaths, but by identifying cases.That doesn't say much for the ability of Public Health Ireland or any other body to track outbreaks from an epidemiological perspective though, does it? I would have thought that deaths due to a transmissible disease would haver to be reported. It's not like granny taking a neck-first tumble down the stairs.
Fair point.Outbreaks from an epidemiological perspective are not tracked by identifying deaths, but by identifying cases.
That doesn't say much for the ability of Public Health Ireland or any other body to track outbreaks from an epidemiological perspective though, does it? I would have thought that deaths due to a transmissible disease would haver to be reported. It's not like granny taking a neck-first tumble down the stairs.
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