Many mechanics service and work on cars in the evening and/or weekends.I assumed a €14ph rate. Could be a bit more or a bit less. He is 27yrs old, lives in a provincal town (Athlone to be precise), how much do you think a qualified mechanic, working for a brand franchise should command?
I took all of the information you had given and drew a conclusion
That's not attacking them, it's just suggesting they do what other people do who want to earn more.
I can't go on strike and picket reality.
Yeah, I agree one unplanned event can happen... but to then to injure yourself doing a dangerous activity when you have responsibilities is a bit much.I think this is harsh to be fair. Different if he had 8 kids maybe, but people have kids either planned or unplanned all the time.
Many mechanics service and work on cars in the evening and/or weekends.
My friend is an electrician. He makes more doing nixers than he gets from his day job. Yes, he pays tax on his nixers. A mechanic should be in the same bracket. If he chooses not to then that's fine but don't play the poor mouth.
Yeah, I agree one unplanned event can happen... but to then to injure yourself doing a dangerous activity when you have responsibilities is a bit much.
I disagree. People should have a work-life balance so that they can strive to be happy but each to their own.Yes, because mechanics lives have one sole purpose - to work evenings and weekends, on top of 9-6pm Mon-Fri.
So he is a farmer as well as a mechanic. There’s his additional income.Unfortunately, farming, and healthy living (such as his personal relationship with someone of the opposite sex) keep interfering.
In any case, who is putting on the poor mouth? His circumstances arose in this instance with regard to 'sickies' being taken. As his employer wasn't paying him, I assume his absence from work is not calculated as a sick days? Unlike public service, where pay is afforded by the employer and as such, sick days in the public service will always be calculated as a higher amount.
I agree that there has been a general move from a return on labour to a return on capital. It’s happened since the 80’s and early 90’s, mainly since the opening up of South East Asia and a huge increase on capital due to their very low wage costs. On a global level, as per your original post, this has resulted in massive wage increases, just not in the part of the globe where wages were already high.
So, in answer to your first post yes; it is time for wages to increase and there have been increasing well ahead of inflation for the vast majority of those in the labour force (or “workers” as you like to call them) in the world. Just not for those who are already very highly paid. Everyone in Ireland, even those who have no job, are very highly paid in the global context.
Was it Rio Ferdinand that hurt his knee reaching for the TV remote? All activities can't be stopped. Something as dangerous as mountain biking is a bit much. Where is the line drawn? I don't know.Im sorry, but he could have injured himself playing hurling or football. Or even at work. Should we stop all activities in which people could get hurt?
His circumstances arose in this instance with regard to 'sickies' being taken.
So he is a farmer as well as a mechanic. There’s his additional income.
He wasn’t, you were.
That's a bit harsh.Yes, a dumb and ignorant conclusion.
People's personal circumstances have no bearing on what people should be paid.Ignorance to fore again. Dont you think most people already know that? Its the failure to give due regard to people's personal circumstances, background, education, lifestyle, family wealth (if any), and your fawning to 'the market', that is dumb.
What, picket reality? Do you also agree with tilting at windmills?You could, if you really wanted to, if you believed you were being screwed, you absolutely could.
Yep. As the market collapsed so did my value.But obviously that is not the case, your market value has crashed.
Yep. As the market collapsed so did my value.
You better believe it!I've noticed it for some time, you're not the man you were
He injured himself in a biking accident and just like the other examples you gave earlier, these are not "sickies". We all know what "sickies" are...people not bothering to come to work and feigning sickness.
Fair enough. But the point im making is that as public servants receive pay while out sick (genuine or not) and as such total sick days per employee will be far greater than private sector where employers may not pay for such absences (genuine or not).
I recall listening to a Newstalk item, Chris Donoghue with three guests discussing a newspaper headline about sick leave in the public service. Outraged they were. Until a listener text a question if any of the panel ever took a 'sickie'. All of a sudden, the tone of the discussion changed from serious indignation, to high humour as each panelist coyed away from giving a straight no answer.
'Sickies' are a disgrace in the public sector, but nudge-nudge, wink-wink, in the private sector.
People's personal circumstances have no bearing on what people should be paid.
Yep. As the market collapsed so did my value.
He has skills which allow him to earn more if he chooses to. That's the point I'm making. If he chooses to work on his family farm, be involved in the community, spend more time with his kids etc that's fine, he may well have a better and happier life doing doHow much should a qualified mechanic (with roughly seven yrs exp and excellent work ethos) command per hour in a provincial town like Athlone, working for an internationally established branded franchise?
Thanks. My skills and ability are worth what the market decides they are worth. I have the choice of trying something different or trying to help improve the trading position of my company. They are my choices. That's reality and there's no point in pretending otherwise. I can't hold a gun to the head of my fellow citizens and demand they pay me more.Yes, I figured that. Nothing to do with you being rubbish at your job afterall. Im sure you are good at it.
BS, any chance you can reply to this?I agree that there has been a general move from a return on labour to a return on capital. It’s happened since the 80’s and early 90’s, mainly since the opening up of South East Asia and a huge increase on capital due to their very low wage costs. On a global level, as per your original post, this has resulted in massive wage increases, just not in the part of the globe where wages were already high.
So, in answer to your first post yes; it is time for wages to increase and there have been increasing well ahead of inflation for the vast majority of those in the labour force (or “workers” as you like to call them) in the world. Just not for those who are already very highly paid. Everyone in Ireland, even those who have no job, are very highly paid in the global context.
He has skills which allow him to earn more if he chooses to.
but he has the option of making more money
or trying to help improve the trading position of my company
Then he has to stick with it.And if he chooses, like you, to help improve the trading position of his company, what then?
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