thanks for that, no dont have broadband enabled landline - if only - cant even get an actual line if i wanted one,it would be one of those arial thingys, cant get wireless broadband without cutting trees down, but nothing i can do if someone elses trees are in the way, not sure about satellite, there seem to be some reasonable deals but the speeds seem fairly poor, so ive been playing around with someone elses 3 mobile usb key stick thing and its reasonable at times although as said before only in one location and only at certain times. will probably try to test an 02 one as well have already tried vodafone with no luck at all, if i could work it via a hub, and it sounds like maybe thats possible then that would do for a while until we check out the satellite options ( looking to work from home eventually and will need decent broadband )