Snap! When I mentioned this thread to the missus she quoted me a headline that she had recently read somewhere.
It's along the lines that "the Irish are the only people who spend thousands of euros to save a few cents"!
For those of you running appliances by night, why don't you look to install solar panels and run your appliances from "free" energy, during the daytime, instead?
Thereby protecting the device and reducing the risk of fire. It takes a lot to blow a 13-amp fuse.Lower amp would blow quicker than a 13A fuse.
How can it cost more to do a 2 hours wash in the dishwasher than a 29 minute one?
We have 3 kids and all 5 of us are the dishwashers!Young kids, so two dishwashers and one washing machine every day
any context on that, the repayment period on solar installs can be 5-7 years, if you look at it over a 20 year lifetme its hardly 1000s to save cents?Snap! When I mentioned this thread to the missus she quoted me a headline that she had recently read somewhere.
It's along the lines that "the Irish are the only people who spend thousands of euros to save a few cents"!
I've found it's difficult for the 6 month old to really pour the kettle of water into the sink without spilling it on himself. I persist but he really wastes a lot of it!We have 3 kids and all 5 of us are the dishwashers!
Does the same principal apply to washing machines?Electric pumps are very very cheap to run whereas electric heaters are very expensive to run. The majority of a 2 hour dishwasher cycle is just the pump running to spray water onto the dishes to soak them and try to release the dirt and spread around soap, the heaters only run for a short time at the start and end. In a very short cycle the heaters still need to run for a similar amount of time, it’s just the low power bits in between that are reduced.
It’s worth taking a look at the manual for washing machines which will have a table for each programme’s power/water usage, they might not all achieve their quick cycles in the same way.Does the same principal apply to washing machines?
And that is no bad thing.More seriously though, when you see how little water and electricity modern dishwashers use, you'd be handwashing for the purpose of teaching children to do some jobs around the house rather then to save water or money.
Few if any of them ship with 13A fuses.Lower amp would blow quicker than a 13A fuse.
In dishwashers and washing machines the eco cycle takes longer than other cycles. The longer time doesn't use more water as they aren't constantly replacing the waterDoes the same principal apply to washing machines?
Also, are you not using more water if you run a 2 hour cycle?
It's been at least 30 years since I last had to replace a fuse in a plug, and that's from a cassette player that came with a lead but no plug, and all the plugs in the shops cane with a 13A fuse.Few if any of them ship with 13A fuses.
Just checked mine there, A 2018 Dell gaming laptop and yes a 5A fuse, was surprised as I thought it would have been 13AFew if any of them ship with 13A fuses.
If you buy a new plugtop in the shop it will likely come with a 13A fuse because they don't know what you're going to be using it for, so they give you the maximum that will just work. But when you're building an appliance it's in your interest to use the smallest fuse you can in the plug because you can use smaller (read: cheaper) cable and components from that point onwards into your appliance.It's been at least 30 years since I last had to replace a fuse in a plug, and that's from a cassette player that came with a lead but no plug, and all the plugs in the shops cane with a 13A fuse.
Trust me. For the few euro you'll save, you'll lose multiples more when or if a machine goes on fire in your sleep, and hopefully its only money that is lost. from personal experience, never run these machines at night or unattended.I don't get this paranoia about running washing machines/ dryers at night.
How many milions of washing/ drying cycles are run every year?
How many of those result in fires/ danger situations?
How many of that smaller number are caught in time, where people are in the vicinity?
Once you have a normal working machine, and a proper electrical system (which is a legal requirement), then there is absolutely no issue with running them at night.
I have interconnected smoke and heat alarms, but they don't have a switching relay.I set up interconnected smoke alarms in every room in my house.
I used the relay switch on these to trip the electricity supply on smoke activation.
At the smoldering stage of a possible appliance fault the ignition source will be removed and the whole house awakened.
I originally set this system up as a result of listening to the horror stories on liveline regarding protein fires.
Essentially this is a pot of meat boiling dry and causing a horrible smell in the house which is almost impossible to get rid of.
Ah, very clever. I would probably use a 100mA fuse in series with a 2k2 resistor. This would still trip the RCD, while limiting the trip current.I used 12 volt EI interconnectable smoke alarms. These have the relay built in.
I don't know if these are still available.
The mains trip is simply a 230 volt live feed through a light bulb to earth, on one of the socket circuits. This trips out the RCD and disconnects the appliances used at night.
My washing machine is on all the time. I have two daughters. I think they've a costume change two or three times a day. All my children do their own washing so I don't know how often it is used but a minimum of ten washes a week.
I run the dishwasher, washing machine and drier at night. With the amount of phones, laptops and ipads etc left plugged in all night, and in some cases for days at a time, the appliances are the least of my worries.
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