Irish Times "4 reasons why Investabill beats having your savings on deposit"

Here is the website

https://www.investabill.com/risk

  • Historical data may not be a reliable indication for the future
  • Risk category shown is not guaranteed and may shift over time
  • The lowest category does not mean ‘risk free’
  • Investabill™ ETR are in this category due to low volatility and consistent performance
  • Safeguard on Investor funds uses 4-Tier Capital Protection
Risk & Reward indicator does not adequately capture:
  • Counterparty risk of AIG failure, or refusal, to settle insurance claims
  • Investments in Advance ETR/c-ETR purchased by Credebt Exchange on its own account
  • Operational risk relating to the safekeeping of assets or funds
  • SRRI Value based on 2-Years’ data only

ETR ARE NEITHER A FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT NOR AN INVESTMENT INSTRUMENT AND CREDEBT EXCHANGE IS NOT REGULATED BY THE CENTRAL BANK OF IRELAND AS A RESULT OF OPERATING THE EXCHANGE AND PROVIDING THE EXCHANGE SERVICES
 
Hi Gordon

Why is it misleading? The comparison with deposits?

I have looked at the two Irish Times ads and the website, and I am no better informed as to what the product is.

Brendan
 
Hi Gordon

Why is it misleading? The comparison with deposits?

I have looked at the two Irish Times ads and the website, and I am no better informed as to what the product is.

Brendan

It’s invoice discounting, Brendan.

You give me your money, I give it to companies with poor cashflow and a high level of debtors. They pay me 10% and I give you 2%.
 
It’s invoice discounting
Even worse. It's invoice discounting that tries to hide the fact it's invoice discounting.

All this talk of "4 Tier capital protections", and AIG insurance. Smoke and mirrors stuff.

They made up their risk classification. Sorry, calculated themselves, based on return over 2 years. There's no representation of the real risk involved. On the same basis property investment would be currently risk free.
 
I know that this is an old thread but wondering if anyone has any up to date information on this investment.
A friend asked today if I know anything about it because a broker put some of his funds into them without their knowledge,
TIA.
 
They still seem to be going anyway.
What sort of broker and what sort of latitude/autonomy did your friend give them with regards to their finances?
Did your friend lose or gain on the venture?
 
I believe it was an ARF that was in place elsewhere for years that had been transferred to this company,
I was concerned to see that they are unregulated.
 
I believe it was an ARF that was in place elsewhere for years that had been transferred to this company,
I was concerned to see that they are unregulated.
I repeat...
What sort of broker and what sort of latitude/autonomy did your friend give them with regards to their finances?
Did your friend lose or gain on the venture?
Whatever about this particular company/product, investing an ARF, from which is likely that 4-5% p.a. will be taken, at potentially slight better than deposit rates seems questionable on the face of it and might possibly end up with the ARF being exhausted prematurely.

Perhaps your friend needs to deal with a better advisor and maybe review this properly? (Having said that, we don't have a lot of detail to go on so far).
 
Sorry for not being able to provide more detail but I did ask about auutonomy and he said he did sign something once giving the broker authority to make choices on his behalf, Its only been a few months since the transfer so too soon to tell if it will turn out to be a good or bad move.
 
Thank you for your help with this. Much appreciated. I haven't passed on the information yet.
Trying to break it gently.
 
If this person's pension is in a deposit class investment which is possibly unregulated then they should act sooner rather than later to rectify this!