[broken link removed]Can someone please link the EI offer? Or post some details of it?
Thanks
How much driving do you intend to do in the car each day? The amount of time it takes to charge an EV is often quoted assuming you're charging from 0% to 100%. So you see 11 hours to charge at home and wonder will it even be ready to go in the morning.Is it even worth upgrading to three phase?
very few people have 3 phase power in domestic situations. As the post above said unless you are needed top ups during the day from your home charger (unlikely) then forget about it.Since we're talking about chargers, I want to take ask a question as well without opening a new thread.
I intend to get an EV shortly.
Probably an Ioniq 5 or an EV6.
They can both charge at 11kW on three phases and I would like make use of that at home.
However, it seems that that upgrading to a three phase supply is quite expensive (source).
Does someone have experience with upgrading to a three phase supply?
How much did you pay for it?
Is there some way around the high cost?
Is it even worth upgrading to three phase?
That isn't a sensible metric! I need a car that can cope with exceptional use not ordinary everyday use. So think long journeys, cold weather, full load of passengers and luggage, heading for parts of the country where rapid chargers are rare to non-existent. Every ICE car manages this without difficulty. That's the benchmark!How much driving do you intend to do in the car each day?
I really hate arguments based on average usage of 50km per day to "prove" that range or charging time isn't an issue. It is!!! I don't want a car that works most of the time - I want one that works ALL of the time. Unless an EV is a second family car, there's a need for something that can cope with whatever series of journeys you throw at it.The amount of time it takes to charge an EV is often quoted assuming you're charging from 0% to 100%. So you see 11 hours to charge at home and wonder will it even be ready to go in the morning.
The vast majority of people arrive home with the battery at 70/80/90% (most people only drive 50km/day), so it's only 30/20/10% you need to add to the car. A standard home charger will charge at 7kW, so adding 20% to your Kia EV6 will only take 2.5 hours.
Granted if you're driving 400km a day you'll need to think a bit more about it, but for the rest of us a 7kW charger at home is more than sufficient.
In my case I have our home charger limited to 2kW so it can make better use of the solar panels during the day, and I only plug the car in once or twice a week.
That's fair enough. I respect your real world experience. Mine requires more than EVs can deliver just yet. I like the EV concept for its engineering efficiency and simplicity. Not to mention potential cost savings on fuel and the spin off benefits of not funding Russian aggression or Middle Eastern jihad.Nobody is forcing you to purchase an EV @Baby boomer, I’m simply answering the questions that are asked based on my real world experience of owning one. There are already plenty of other threads on AAM where the points you raise have been debated ad nauseam.
The reality is most people can do just fine as an ev will meet 90 plus percent of their travel requirements and the odd time you need more than that you do a little extra planning there are tonnes of apps to help.That's fair enough. I respect your real world experience. Mine requires more than EVs can deliver just yet. I like the EV concept for its engineering efficiency and simplicity. Not to mention potential cost savings on fuel and the spin off benefits of not funding Russian aggression or Middle Eastern jihad.
But, there are huge issues with range, charging points and of course upfront cost. These need to be openly considered rather than glossed over in an evangelical rush to adopt what is still an immature technology.
Agreed and I make significant effort in those other threads to steer the discussion away from the conspiracy theory nonsense to the real issues people will face (range, cost, charger availability).That's fair enough. I respect your real world experience. Mine requires more than EVs can deliver just yet. I like the EV concept for its engineering efficiency and simplicity. Not to mention potential cost savings on fuel and the spin off benefits of not funding Russian aggression or Middle Eastern jihad.
But, there are huge issues with range, charging points and of course upfront cost. These need to be openly considered rather than glossed over in an evangelical rush to adopt what is still an immature technology.