i'm cynical about medical staff complaining about conditions in hospitals. If they really cared enough they would not have bullied and threatened the tax payer into giving then the money in pay increases rather than spending it on facilities and services.
There is a direct link between the state of our hospitals and the very high pay levels enjoyed by health service employees, particularly the so called "front line" staff.
I'm cynical about medical staff complaining about conditions in hospitals. If they really cared enough they would not have bullied and threatened the tax payer into giving then the money in pay increases rather than spending it on facilities and services.
There is a direct link between the state of our hospitals and the very high pay levels enjoyed by health service employees, particularly the so called "front line" staff.
I don't often rise to the bait thrown out by you two as I am sick and tired of reading the same stuff from both of you, over and over and over again. Could you not just for once show a little bit of respect and leave one thread alone, where snowy lets us know about a young lad who is facing death, and has put out a request for help for Our Lady's Hospital
We fought for hundreds of years against the Brits who caused less problems here than the EU.
I'm not really sure that direct pay cuts would be directly sourced to creating benefits for the sick and needy or special needs but if that makes one feel better to think so ...
Marion
I’m really sick of the very real issue of cost and efficiency in the health services being clouded my emotive cases of sick children and young people. For the record I’ve lost a sister as very young child and another close family member to cancer at a young age and I’ve had children in hospital for extended periods. I know what hospitals look like and smell like and I know the work done by medical staff. I’ve seen great doctors and nurses and awful doctors and nurses. What happens whenever this topic comes up is big steaming pile of bull is poured on top of the facts and the core issues, in the form of “caring, sick children, saints, you wouldn’t do the job, etc”. I find the actions and words of nurses and doctors two-faced and hypocritical. They were more interested in getting pay increases than improving services and are now more interested in keeping those increases than maintaining services. When nurses or doctors come out and suggest how to fix some of the problems, any of the problems, then they will have some credibility. As things stand they are just paying lip service while protecting their corner.I don't often rise to the bait thrown out by you two as I am sick and tired of reading the same stuff from both of you, over and over and over again. Could you not just for once show a little bit of respect and leave one thread alone, where snowy lets us know about a young lad who is facing death, and has put out a request for help for Our Lady's Hospital
So you see no link between spending more on wages and having less left for services and facilities. I find that bizarre.I'm not really sure that direct pay cuts would be directly sourced to creating benefits for the sick and needy or special needs but if that makes one feel better to think so ...
Marion
...that ladder has been pulled up by those who are already in those posts...
If you can't afford private health insurance, you too should get out for within a short space of time there will be no public health service left.
Again - if reasonable salaries were paid to staff in the health service, this would not be the case.
In a "normal" economy I would agree with you, but in our current state, any savings made by cutting wages and other costs will just mean that we as a state borrow less money from the Troika rather than putting this money into improving services. (Borrowing less money is good too though)..
Agreed
However, we are currently borrowing €15,000,000,000 per annum, all the while wages and job numbers in the wealth creating sector are declining and front line services are being cut while the pay and conditions in the public sector are hardly being touched.
This is clearly unsustainable. Something has to give.
while the pay and conditions in the public sector are hardly being touched.
This is clearly unsustainable. Something has to give.
Agreed
However, we are currently borrowing €15,000,000,000 per annum, all the while wages and job numbers in the wealth creating sector are declining and front line services are being cut while the pay and conditions in the public sector are hardly being touched.
This is clearly unsustainable. Something has to give.
Do you include GP's in this?I don’t think that fair; there have been extensive cuts to the public sector both in wages and in personnel. Under normal circumstances these would be very significant.
This isn’t a thread about public sector pay in general; it’s about pay levels of so-called “front line” medical staff.
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