That's a bit harsh!
That's a bit harsh!I hear they have no criminal courts in Iran, at least according to Ayatollah Paul Kelly.
They may have worked within 28 days also. Would that make it a work related incident?
More boards.ie whataboutery. Ask the statisticians who make those decisions.Possession of drugs to feed your addiction is, so in effect addiction to drugs is a criminal offence.
We've been here before and I have yet to see any convincing evidence that that's the case. Per capita consumption measurements don;t do it.We are drinking less though - are the problems you mentioned increasing or decreasing?
The problem is alcohol, not the form it comes in. It's like this nonsense people talk about soft and hard drugs and gateway drugs. Every addict has a drug of choice or class of drugs - depressants, stimulants, hallucinogens or even poly-drug habits.Maybe we should be going the other way, and letting 16 and 17 year olds have beer or wine in a pub but no spirits.
A person who is addicted to alcohol doesn't end up in court or with a criminal record because they are caught in possession of alcohol. A person who is addicted to illegal drugs does. Criminalise the sale and distribution of drugs but not possession for personal use. It serves no purpose.@Purple that's a stretch even for you. Gotta call nonsense on that one, addiction is not a crime, nor are other mental illnesses.
Yes, and can be arrested for it.A person found in possession of legal psychoactive drugs without a current prescription is also breaking the law.
A person who is using illegal drugs is committing a criminal offense since possession of illegal drugs is a criminal offence. If caught in possession of those illegal drugs they will be arrested because they have committed a criminal offence.The notion that a person with a mental health issue is guilty of a crime is utterly ridiculous,
I've never been on Boards.ie so I don't get the reference.throw all the boards.ie shapes at it as you wish. 18th/19th/early 20th-century thinking surfacing again?
That's totally different to saying someone suffering from a mental health issue is guilty of a crime. The charge in your example will be "possession" if found in possession or "possession with intent to supply" if the quantity is big enough. They are never charged with "being addicted to substance X, Y or Z". That notion is crazy, as "being addicted" is not a crime that appears on our statute books.A person who is using illegal drugs is committing a criminal offense since possession of illegal drugs is a criminal offence. If caught in possession of those illegal drugs they will be arrested because they have committed a criminal offence.
This really isn't hard to understand.
Their crime in being in possession of the substance they are addicted to. They are criminalised and so the medical sector can wash their hands of them. Thankfully the Gardaí are more enlightened and compassionate that the medical "professionals" and do what they can to avoid destroying the lives of people who need help more than they need punishment. Unfortunately there's only so much they can do when the people who are trained, qualifies and paid to help turn their backs on those they are charged with helping.That's totally different to saying someone suffering from a mental health issue is guilty of a crime. The charge in your example will be "possession" if found in possession or "possession with intent to supply" if the quantity is big enough.
I never said it was. I said that in effect their addiction is criminalised when possession of the substance an addict is addicted to is criminalised.They are never charged with "being addicted to substance X, Y or Z". That notion is crazy, as "being addicted" is not a crime that appears on our statute books.
As I said previously I dispute this contention.Alcohol consumption has been dropping for decades.
The article even says:As I said previously I dispute this contention.
Now it seems statistics from NI agree with me unless there is some mysterious way for alcohol deaths and harm to increase in the face of decreasing consumption.
Northern Ireland records new high for alcohol-related deaths
However, unlike England and Scotland, NI did not see a significant rise in such deaths in 2020.www.bbc.com
Oh "but that's No'rn Ir'n" they say, "we're different!" No, we're not, it's an island-wide problem that needs to be tackled on that basis. Denying there's a problem isn't the least bit helpful.
Part of me thinks the problem is that's too much hassle and involved doctors from Trinity and the Royal College of Surgeons consorting with the riff-raff. Better to just have the Gardaí round them up if they are drunk on the street of beating up their missus.So obviously there is some way reduction in overall consumption does not translate to reduction in harms.
Which is precisely why I am questioning policies which aim to reduce overall alcohol consumption rather than focusing on harms.
Assuming the tracking of those harms is consistent over time, it may not be.
Or misterBetter to just have the Gardaí round them up if they are drunk on the street of beating up their missus.
Did the court really only deal with 19 cases all week or is this selective journalism where they're picking out the more interesting stories?19 court cases reported in my local paper this week, 7 were drink related and either involved criminal damage or threatening behaviour, 5 were for drug possession and the other 7 were the usual litany of no insurance, shop lifting etc. So the Courts wouldn't close down but they would be a lot quieter.
Go and sit in your local district court for a session. There will be loads of drug offences, loads of driving offences, and quite a few public order offences related to drugs and alcohol. There'll also be the unpaid fines people etc.19 court cases reported in my local paper this week, 7 were drink related and either involved criminal damage or threatening behaviour, 5 were for drug possession and the other 7 were the usual litany of no insurance, shop lifting etc. So the Courts wouldn't close down but they would be a lot quieter.
Circuit courts don't sit everyday but I have no doubt there was other cases not reported as well. It's also probable that some of the shop lifting and theft cases were being done to feed a habit of one kind or another. What is depressing in a country town is that you start to recognise the names, the families and the patterns. Maybe targetted supports for some of those families is needed and certainly more addiction support services are badly needed and could be an investment worth making.Did the court really only deal with 19 cases all week or is this selective journalism where they're picking out the more interesting stories?
Highly recommended. Everyone should do it. You will be astonished at the leniency shown towards "petty" crime. You will also get an appreciation of exactly how a great big chunk of your hard earned tax payments are being spent.Go and sit in your local district court for a session.
Sounds like a normal day in court, all right.There will be loads of drug offences, loads of driving offences, and quite a few public order offences related to drugs and alcohol. There'll also be the unpaid fines people etc.
Yes, the legal aid merry-go-round. An utter waste of time, money and lives but sure it pays the bills and builds careers.Highly recommended. Everyone should do it. You will be astonished at the leniency shown towards "petty" crime. You will also get an appreciation of exactly how a great big chunk of your hard earned tax payments are being spent.
At the core of most criminality is a stretch.At the core of most criminality?
Rubbish.
Its probably not even 'at the core' of most of the incidents ... alcohol caused and alcohol related are not the same thing.
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