dockingtrade
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Docking-I completel accept that the pain needs to be shared but in the area in which I work, none of us are lighting cigars with 100e notes! We work on the coalface with a difficult client group for which no money would pay us! It's just very frustrating that we get tarred with the same brush as highly paid, high level administrators.
I think it fair to say that the Unions can be thanked for todays 1100+ job losses ! They have made this country seriously uncompetitive with their policies in many large companys and are directly responsible in many cases for 1000's of job losses over the last decade. Getting a little tired of it to be honest.
its becoming apparent that the union heads are very stupid and ignorent people that dont understand economic cycles and booms / busts etc.
Indeed, it's the old 'divide and conquer' strategy. But it's not working;Ah but we're NOT insulated.
The media and the government have vilified the Public sector to the extent that they're taking hit on the pensions levy by themselves and the private sector are sitting around going "ha,that'll teach you!"
This is wide of the mark. Jobs are being lost right across the board, in the non-unionised sector (Dell, RR Donnelly, Ryanair), the unionised private sector (SR Technics), and the public sector (Dublin Bus, Bus Eireann, many local authorities). Attempts to create division to targeting one sector only will fail.There is and has been value in unions, but at the moment they are acting irresponsibly in not accepting that a cut in public sector pay, in any form. Jack O'connor was on the other day about right wing agendas and the media having workers at each others throats. Its the unions that are deviding the workers. Jobs are being lost in unionised companies and pay has been cut and pensions wiped out.
What is unfair is that it targets one particular group of employees for no good reason. There are many very secure jobs in the private sector - why aren't they making a contribution? There are many self-employed people who continue to bring in a good steady income - why aren't they making a contribution?Yet the same unions are outraged when there's a cut in public sector pay. How can a union official not accept any public sector pay cut when unionized private sector jobs are being lost in the 000's each week. Whats unfair about a cut in a garaunteed job?
The unions were and still are ready to sit down and work out how the cuts should be implemented in a fair and equitable way. The current proposal is not within an asses roar of a fair and equitable way. The current proposal is that those who gained least from the boom years pay most for the recovery.Complainer. Do you not accept that the avergae public sector wage is too high given the state of the public finances. And because jobs are being lost in the 000's (not pay cuts but job losses), that there should be a cut in public sector pay where the jobs are garaunteed.
What Im saying is that the unions need to accept this, and relay this to their public sector members and then the unions get to work to work out how the cut should be implemented in a "fair an equitable way."
It is comments like this that lead me to believe that talk of public sector cuts are motivated by jealously and/or spite, not by any sense of fairness.You talk about taregeting workers, the private have been targeted and reduced in thousands, a pay cut comes nowhere near a job loss.
One last post on this. I just listnened to the radio and guy asking his members to protest outside wherever over the DEVASTATION the pension levy has caused. he used the word devastation. What planet are these people on.Im convinced to only people out of touch with the real world and also insulated from the recession are the union leaders. 000s losing jobs but protesting at a levy because of the DEVASTATION it has caused....ban me im done
lol lol lol Its much higher than the private sector ( despite the security , pension + perks of the public sector ) but shure you " certainly don't believe all the media guff about public sector pay being too high ".I certainly don't believe all the media guff about public sector pay being too high.
I guess you can keep on saying it, and hope that enough people will believe it.. regardless of the lack of evidence.lol lol lol Its much higher than the private sector ( despite the security , pension + perks of the public sector ) but shure you " certainly don't believe all the media guff about public sector pay being too high ".
I work in the public sector and have not heard one single colleague complain about having to contribute towards economic recovery. What we are objecting to is the unequal way some people are being asked to contribute...
It is comments like this that lead me to believe that talk of public sector cuts are motivated by jealously and/or spite, not by any sense of fairness.
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