Yes, but as the wards are empty post-Christmas why are they not being transferred? And back to my original point; where's the list of people sitting around waiting for a Consultant to bother their backside to do a Ward round and discharge them?So on January of every year you're dealing with the patients you'd expect and 3-4 weeks worth of backlog. So you're guaranteed to have around double the trolley number.
So it's the fault of TD's that the HSE, Hospital Management, Doctors and Nurses etc can't manage to run the health service at anything like the same levels of efficiency as just about every other health service in the OECD? It's the fault of TD's that RTE and Newstalk and other media outlets refer to the INMO figures as being compiled by "officials"? It's the fault of TD's that no journalist asks for the "why" after reporting the "what"? You think we should replace the people we have now with the populist far left ideologues whose economic policies are based on Trotsky and Marx? Give me a break! Do you think those clowns are going to stand up to the Public Sector Unions, the strongest and most damaging vested interest groups in the country?Why do you never focus on getting the people you support/ elect to do there job, Time to stop sitting on your back side criticising the wrong people.Do you not realize the minister already knows what is going on.Discharge all the Dail Eireann Deputies/Ministers at the next General Election no need to change parties just replace them with there running mates.They need to fear the people when the don't do there job .Right now the Minister fears change more than he fears the people.Don't blame INMO / RTE /MEDIA/JOURNALISTS/ FRONT LINE STAFF.Look.You ought to look in the mirror and face reality. Consider self Examination before continuing to criticising front line staff.Change will only come when people stop voting for the same Ministers/Parties who do not stand up to pressure groups/special Intrest groups on behalf of the people.We need to start voting on there record in office/oppisition and stop voting on there promises.They need to know that there will be an extra 157 people waiting on trolleys to be discharged after the next general election going by there record so far.
The answer is partly to due seasonal factors such as flu, but what's more important and the unions or HSE won't tell you is that hospitals are surprisingly expert at reducing capacity over Christmas. Wards start being cleared out in early December - they get cleared out by having no elective or non-emergency patients being treated.
I've been in hospitals around Christmas and you'll see a lot of empty wards or one or two patients per ward. Partly it's patients don't want to get a non-emergency treatment around then, partly it's to allow staff time off.
So on January of every year you're dealing with the patients you'd expect and 3-4 weeks worth of backlog. So you're guaranteed to have around double the trolley number.
Why do you never focus on getting the people you support/ elect to do there job
Doran's own INMO figures for trolley watch show why we've an annual January crisis.I never thought about this before. Would be interesting to hear Liam Doran offer his opinion on this.
It looks like our multi billion Euro hospital system is grossly under utilised for one twelfth of the year. That equates to a waste of hundreds of millions of Euro. A large part of the solution is to keep the hospitals busy over Christmas with elective procedures. If you don't want to be in hospital over that period then you can go to the back of the queue.Doran's own INMO figures for trolley watch show why we've an annual January crisis.
https://www.inmo.ie/trolley_ward_watch
Pick any year and look at the December trolley numbers and watch how they nosedive for Christmas as the nation suddenly become healthy.
Illustrative are the 2015 numbers as they go to the 24th of Dec with a mere 50 people waiting on trolleys. Chances are this 50 number is the base average figure for patients in A&E who are emergencies opposed to patients who've no option but to use A&E as the method to get into a ward for diabetes treatment or whatever.
It is impossible to not have a dramatic trolley increase in January with the way the Irish system works.
I don't think its the Patients now wanting to be in the hospitals during xmas, more likely the Consultants and Nurses.
Why is influenza an issue? It's a virus so flu vaccination is the preventative measure. It's free to those with a medical or GP visit card, so why don't people take it, and if they don't surely it's reasonable to charge them the marginal costs of taking up a trolley and subsequent costs? Also is it actually correct to say that flu is responsible for the 'trolley' issue? Flu can be detected by influenza diagnostic tests, so why are 'flu patients' not so tested and shifted out if the results are negative? Why are they taking up trollies? If positive, why are they not prescribed antivirals and then shifted out? What else can you do?The answer is partly to due seasonal factors such as flu,
I agree with the thrust of your post but why would a solicitor or a doctor have a better chance of surviving than an engineer, an IT consultant or a business owner (or anyone else who was reasonably confident, intelligent and a good communicator)?I don't want to turn this into a rant, but having put my late mother, my late aunt and family members through the Irish public hospital system - it is a disaster (and I'm being charitable here). It's not that the health services staff in it are competent and hard workers etc. and are screwed by the system. IMHO they are not that good - if they worked really hard they could become second rate, but they have a long way to go; going into a public hospital is like going into a monkey house but I've seen better managed zoos. If you are a professional, can talk to doctors etc., in my experience you have a reasonable chance of survival but if you kowtow you will end up dead.
It looks like our multi billion Euro hospital system is grossly under utilised for one twelfth of the year. That equates to a waste of hundreds of millions of Euro.
Doran's own INMO figures for trolley watch show why we've an annual January crisis.
https://www.inmo.ie/trolley_ward_watch
Pick any year and look at the December trolley numbers and watch how they nosedive for Christmas as the nation suddenly become healthy.
Anecdotal evidence from family in the health service says there's a significantly higher volume of no-shows for elective procedures in the run up to Christmas, even for serious cases, with a lot of them walking in early in the new year claiming to have forgotten about the appointment or not having received the notice.
Yes, and he knows the solution; hire more nurses and pay them more. That will also sort out global warming and that bother in Aleppo.If this is true (and it sounds plausable to me) I would think the HSE, in its defense, should publish this information. At least it might give the honourable Liam Doran something to chew on.
When investigating a NHS hospital some years ago, Gerry Robinson, former TESCO boss from Mayo, drilled down to find out why there were excessive delays for certain operations. He discovered that an operating theatre was closed every Friday. No-one knew why, but it was "custom and practice". Re-opening the theatre solved the problem permanently.It looks like our multi billion Euro hospital system is grossly under utilised for one twelfth of the year.
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