Hospital Food

Murt10

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Anytime I have been in hospital, which hasn't been too frequent TG, I have been amazed at the food that is served up there.

People are normally in hospital because they are sick. Often diet and lifestyle are a contributory factor to their being there in the first place. What do they get to eat in hospital, food that put them there in the first place - fries, chips, butter and food that is full of fats etc. I suppose that it's cheap and easy to cook.

I remember looking at a BBC/ITV programme about food in hospitals in the UK a couple of years ago. There they were given a budget of about 1.50 - 2.00 stg., per day, per patient, to spend on the ingredients for a meal. Naturally they were very badly fed. I wouldn't be too surprised if the same is true here in Ireland.

Perhaps the HSE and the administrators should take a look at this article.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hospitals-give-healthy-food-more-operating-room?siteid=nwhpf

From what I have heard a lot more is spent on feeding our involuntary inmates in the Joy and other places of detention. I think they rioted a few times because they were unhappy with the variety of food they were being served. Tell me, who would you rather see served proper food. It's a bit too late now as the Dail is on holidays, but a parliamentary question to both the Minister for Health and the Minister for Justice asking for the cost of food (not including labour and staff costs) per patient/prisoner, per day, might have provided some valuable insight into who we, as a society, regard as the most important and deserving

On a similar line, I was attending Temple St A&E a few years ago with my child. At that time, the only drinks available there were soft fizzy drinks from a vending machine. This machine was helpfully located next to a sweet vending machine. I think this may have changed and you can now buy bottled water from another machine, but the old ones are still there.

Surely in this day and age we should ban unhealthy fizzy drinks from hospitals. We should be offering free water and milk or fruit drinks to those children and their parents attending out patients. Vending machines selling sweets should be banned from hospitals.

Maybe the contract with the suppliers of the fizzy drinks and sweets were too lucrative for the hospital to refuse. Perhaps they are signed into long term contracts. After all, we have to remember that we had the unbelievable situation where the only loss making car park provided by the State, and run by the private sector, was located in Beaumont Hospital. They had to pay the private operator to run it for them in addition to the private company collecting and keeping all the revenue from hospital patients and visitors car parks.

Rant over


Murt


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I remember looking at a BBC/ITV programme about food in hospitals in the UK a couple of years ago. There they were given a budget of about 1.50 - 2.00 stg., per day, per patient, to spend on the ingredients for a meal. Naturally they were very badly fed. I wouldn't be too surprised if the same is true here in Ireland.

The crazy thing is this amount could provide nutritious and healthy meals. Fruit and veg is very cheap when bought in bulk and meat like mince etc is relatively cheap. There are many healthy family meals that can be made for around 10 euro for four people so you would think the HSE/caterers or whoever deals with the purchasing could strike a good deal with suppliers based on the large amount of food they would be buying.
 
Completely agree. I've only been in hospital twice, TG, for two births, but had the misfortune of being in a public hospital which was the only place that offered maternity services. Food was so appalling that I had my husband bring in food to me- literally he brought in a lunch and dinner to me! Well I was in Vincents private another time just for a daytime procedure and was amused to be given a menu on arrival ( I think there might even have been a wine option but I might be making that up!).

On the other hand I've been into the Bons quite a few times visiting relatives and the food they serve is quite okay.
 
I agree with your theories but the whole get rid of fizzy drink and sweet vending machines and hand out free water, milk and fruit is a bit utopian and unrealistic. Your lucky to meet a doctor in A&E, never mind obtaining free stuff! Perhaps water in with the fizzy drinks but fruit, just go to the hospital shop.

Food isn't that bad in hospital, Bons Secour is very good, sure you don't have to cook or clean it up afterwards. Bonus!
 
Had a conversation with someone 'in the know' some time ago about this issue and heard that its in response to public demands that they're stocking fizzy drinks - that's what people seem to want from the machines. The menus are also all worked out according to feedback and I was told its pretty much impossible to keep everyone happy.

Was told also that the cook-chill way of food prep and transfer to the wards works better for some dishes and not for others, but they don't have a choice, being required to do it like this because of all the hygiene regs.

I was in the convenience store in the St. James's Hospital main entrance and it sold anything that you would expect to find in a convenience store, and there were patients queuing up to buy crisps, biscuits, drinks of all types, so maybe they weren't getting enough?

There were also a serious number of patients out the front door smoking as well...

I had cause too to visit a person in a Spanish hospital and saw what they got to eat. Some of it was okay, some of it wasn't, none of it was amazing and I brought them in pastries, fruit and other bits and pieces sent from home.

You could however get a decent coffee in the Spanish hospital, while the muck they serve here (and in some restaurants it has to be said) is just dirty water in comparison.
 
I remember reading an article in the papars by a woman who said that her husband was in hospital for a bypass and that afterwards he was given a fry up!!

I've only been in hospital once and I thought the food was terrible - just all white processed stuff, eg. white bread, butter, toast, and more white bread.
 
I had a few days in Cork Univ Hosp last year. I must say that overall the choice and content of the meals while not Michelin 2 ** was acceptable, edible & sufficiently nutritious for my needs. Although the jelly & ice cream did cause a momentary flashback to childhood days :p
 
Point 1; I don't see why it should be an either/or situation. I'd like to see better food in hospitals, but I don't think we need to provide slop to prisoners either. Why shouldn't they be fed properly too? .


Prisoners are in prison for a reason. They have not been sent on an all expenses paid holiday camp. They have been sent there as a punishment. They should get adequate nutritional food - ie porridge for breakfast, nothing more, no choice. I agree that they should not be served slop, but neither should they have a choice as to what is on the menu. Their choice should be to eat or not to eat.

If they decide to riot over their lack of choice of food, or for any other reason, then the army/police/prison service should with in with live amunition, and orders to take back control of the prison as quickly as possible.

Point 2: If the fizzy drinks/sweets are in vending machines, they are not being given to patients, they are available to buy. If people want to buy them that is their own choice to make, surely? I don't purchase fizzy drinks, from vending machines or otherwise, but I don't think we need to go down the route of banning stuff on behalf of people. A bit nanny-state ish, don't you think? I spend a fair bit of time in hospital waiting rooms lately with my son, and in the maternity unit also (honestly, we are never out of the place!), and the hospital shop sells fruit, water, popcorn etc, which is what we purchase rather than sweets crisps and coke. Considering the waiting times and the lack of resources in the public system, I don't want to be given free bananas and milk, I'd rather have an extra paediatric bed available or what have you..

I am not aware of which hospital you brought your son to. I was talking about The Childrens Hospital, Temple St, Dublin 1. This is the only specialist childrens hospital on the northside of Dublin. It does not have a shop.

As for people having a choice, that doesn't properly apply when the goodies are placed in bright well lit machines, to show off their attractive packaging, in front of sick children and they, their parents and siblings are queueing up. There is such a thing as pester power and as there is no healthy alternative available, there is little choice.

With regard to the waiting times, I have always been dealt with promptly and efficiently in Temple St A&E. I have never experienced any undue delay in seeing a doctor, and a more senior doctor if necessary. Now the adult hospitals, that's a different matter.

I do however agree that hospital food on the whole seems to be bland, cheap, under-nutritious, and often inappropriate. On my last stay in hospital (OLOL, Drogheda), I had people bring food into me, as that provided was truly appalling. On the other hand, the food in the Rotunda a few years ago was OK, nothing great, but perfectly edible, with some healthy choices available.

Personally I thought the food in the Rotunda was grand.

About a decade ago, the first time I was in the Rotunda in many years, on the previous visit I was on a liquid diet and didn't have much choice, Mrs Murt was in doing what women do there. I popped out of the hospital for a few minutes, having spent a long and exausting time there. On my return I was asked by one of the nurses if I was hungry. I said I was and was taken into a ward and given a lovely chicken salad. I presume this was meant for Mrs Murt, but what the heck, she was in no position to eat, and I didn't want to see it go to waste or possibly offend the chef by sending it back untouched.


Murt
 
Prisoners are in prison for a reason. They have not been sent on an all expenses paid holiday camp. They have been sent there as a punishment. They should get adequate nutritional food - ie porridge for breakfast, nothing more, no choice. I agree that they should not be served slop, but neither should they have a choice as to what is on the menu. Their choice should be to eat or not to eat.

If they decide to riot over their lack of choice of food, or for any other reason, then the army/police/prison service should with in with live amunition, and orders to take back control of the prison as quickly as possible.

Wow - thats pretty hardcore. Isnt the measure of civilisation of a society how well it treats its prisoners?
 
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