hi, thanks again for the reply, reason for 2 separate posts - at the time of the 1st post the bank were threatening repossession and I needed advice regarding half rule to check if we were entitled to return vehicle before it was repossessed. Second post regarding one-third rule because the vehicle has now been repossessed and I wanted advice as to whether the bank were within their rights to do this without a court order, under the consumer act if they breach the one-third rule then we can cancel the agreement and get a refund of any payments made. Also, the car was repossessed from our home and I wanted to find out if this was legal, no clear information regarding commercial hp agreements on net, all relate to private consumer agreements, thanks for taking the time to reply