The problem with guaranteed pricing is the perverse incentives when there is a glut. EU-wide price supports gave us food mountains and produce wastefully ploughed back into the ground. Concentrating food production near the area where a third of the population lives also sounds like a sensible way to reduce food miles. Maybe what is needed is an insurance scheme rather than price supports. It's true it can only save producers from going under in bad years -- it doesn't give any additional security of supply. But bad years are much rarer than bumper years and the alternative is to have almost permanent over-supply.
your contribution is not worthy of a reply, a one line smart alec reply to a looming crisis, whats your alternative shortagesPrice fixing doesn't work.
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"Not worthy of a reply" usually means "I'm stumped but won't admit it"your contribution is not worthy of a reply, a one line smart alec reply to a looming crisis, whats your alternative shortages
We should remove all price supports and trade openly with developing countries who could produce most of our food for us. That would cause a consolidation in the agricultural sector which would eventually lead to far fewer but much larger producers. Globally we'd reduce real poverty and lift the incomes of millions of families. Our current model (the CAP) is immoral and economically nonsensical.
What environmental consequences? About 5% of the workforce is in agriculture. The number of low skilled job losses would be minimal. The social impact would be significant but does that justify subsidies and trade barriers which cause so much poverty, suffering and death in developing countries?Absolutely not. It would have environmental consequences, land management, reduced job opportunities for unskilled workers, social impact in the country side.
It's not just an economic argument, there is very little to support the massive subsidies paid to keep totally un-viable businesses afloat and plenty, besides the strong economic argument, against.Economics is a very poor argument when all is considered.
We should remove all price supports and trade openly with developing countries who could produce most of our food for us. ... Globally we'd reduce real poverty and lift the incomes of millions of families. Our current model (the CAP) is immoral and economically nonsensical.
A free market would put them out of business and let real farmers, as opposed to subsidy junkies, get on with business.
Leave Larry alone I suspect he would see through the people who think the know everything what a strange addiction the people who see subsidy junkies everywhere the look,Like Larry Goodman?
No not like Larry Goodman, he is so far as I know primarily a meat processor.Like Larry Goodman?
He's also the biggest farmer in the country and the biggest EU subsidy recipient. If there was no subsidies in the meat trade, he probably wouldn't be at that either.No not like Larry Goodman, he is so far as I know primarily a meat processor.
He's also the biggest farmer in the country and the biggest EU subsidy recipient. If there was no subsidies in the meat trade, he probably wouldn't be at that either.
That too, but don't cod yourself that doing so would hurt the likes of Goodman though.Another reason to scrap subsidies then.
That too, but don't cod yourself that doing so would hurt the likes of Goodman though.
Not confusing at all. If subsidies were removed, the likes of him would hoover up half the country's agricultural land at knockdown values and we'd be halfway to a national food production oligopoly and all the joys that would bring.Wha ? First you tell me that he is the biggest EU subsidy recipient, now you are suggesting that scrapping subsidies would not hurt him. Confused is a good word.
Subsidies distort Irish agriculture, if they were removed, farmers would have to produce and market their wares in a more efficient way. The examples I cited above could serve as an inspiration.
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