Banned for life in rugby!!!....not a chance.After last night's cowardly assault with his elbow to the back of Sean O'Brien's head in the Northampton vs Leinster Championship game, I look forward to Harley being banned for life from the game I love.
It is certainly more physical and some teams do plan on targeting opposition players with the objective of injuring them. That, to me, is the dirtiest form of play. In that context I would look at New Zealand rather than England.Give the exponential growth in the physicality of the game leading to increasing levels of violent behaviour , concussion & unfortunately deaths something is surely going to have to be done.
Perhaps the upcoming Court case surrounding the death of Benjamin Robinson in Northern Ireland will be a game changer ?
Hartley got a 6 week ban. With the RFU's attitude to violence and violent players I guess we'll have to wait until Hartley maims or kills someone on the field before we're rid of him. All the signs are there and I think it's blind luck it hasn't happened before now with the level of violence in the game that goes unpoliced and unpunished.
I'm delighted he'll be back for the Six Nations; he's a rallying point for the opposition and far from England's best Hooker, Jamie George is better, and if anyone thinks he's the reason England are doing so well they need their head examined.Actually it was considered only a mid-level offence and the more I look at the repeat the more I think Hartley mistimed his swinging arm which was intended for the falling O'Brien's back.
But you do seem to have it in for England players alone so I guess you won't be persuaded that it was anything less than an attempt at a Jihadist beheading.
Anyway he got a week off for saying soz and pleading guilty so he'll now get at least one club game to get up to match fitness before the start of the Six Nations.
Good news if you're an England supporter like me as I'd like to see their good run continue - the Ireland game promises to be a cracker.
If Hartley keeps his nose clean the Lions tour is definitely on for him.
I think you give the Irish Judicial system too much credit/respect.If he was any of the forementioned and lived in Ireland he would be facing a judge; not an old fart, ponsey rugby boys club.
Plenty of rugby players come from tough backgrounds, though it may not suit the inverted snobbery that some people have towards the game to admit it. Jamie Cudmore being an extreme example (Cudmore says he "had a bit of trouble growing up". As a teenager he was an enforcer for a drug dealer in his home town and spent a year in a youth detention center following a conviction for assault. He has stated that rugby turned his life around.) but he is by no means exceptional.Let me see . . . Dylan Hartley. . . hmmmmmm! . . . broken home? . . . bad education? . . . breadline poor? . . . loaner? . . . tough upbringing? . . . unemployed? . . . unfortunate environment?, etc, etc . . . I think not.
If he was any of the forementioned and lived in Ireland he would be facing a judge; not an old fart, ponsey rugby boys club.
Stuart Lancaster got rid of Dylan Hartley and then England got rid of Stuart Lancaster - something wrong somewhere in the ERU set-up? I hope none of my grandchildren will be playing rugby as in its present state.
I'm delighted he'll be back for the Six Nations; he's a rallying point for the opposition and far from England's best Hooker, Jamie George is better, and if anyone thinks he's the reason England are doing so well they need their head examined.
Eddie Jones is the reason they are doing well. He is building on the work done by Stewart Lancaster.Personally I'd go with Eddie Jones' judgement.
Coaches,eh - what do they know ?
Eddie Jones is the reason they are doing well. He is building on the work done by Stewart Lancaster.
Plenty of rugby players come from tough backgrounds, though it may not suit the inverted snobbery that some people have towards the game to admit it. Jamie Cudmore being an extreme example (Cudmore says he "had a bit of trouble growing up". As a teenager he was an enforcer for a drug dealer in his home town and spent a year in a youth detention center following a conviction for assault. He has stated that rugby turned his life around.) but he is by no means exceptional.
“Players need to be protected, especially in these big games when the result seems to be more important than people’s health.”
Thanks Jamie (former drug dealer's enforcer and rugby professional). What a hypocritical Flanker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Actually old chap in either case it is foul play, punishable under the laws of the game. A bit like saying "Oh sorry, I meant to kick him in the ribs but kicked him in the head because my aim or timing was bad."Actually it was considered only a mid-level offence and the more I look at the repeat the more I think Hartley mistimed his swinging arm which was intended for the falling O'Brien's back.
I've named two international players with appalling disciplinary records recognised hit men, who happen to be English, but fantasize away that I'm motivated by anti-English sentiment. Your choice of a Jihadist beheading for comparison's sake is in extremely poor taste. You'd wonder what former or current imperialist / colonists' actions would prompt Jihadists to want to behead people.But you do seem to have it in for England players alone so I guess you won't be persuaded that it was anything less than an attempt at a Jihadist beheading.
I don't understand.Anyway he got a week off for saying soz and pleading guilty
With the likes of Hartley & other ill-disciplined English Hit-men on the field guess what'll be cracking? Not disciplinary whips for sure, but Irish skulls.- the Ireland game promises to be a cracker.
Hartley's nose is already very snotty and his violent history should have him ruled him out, but we'll see. Traditionally the Lions tour was seen as a reward for the best players in the four nations. I wonder what the current criteria are.If Hartley keeps his nose clean the Lions tour is definitely on for him.
Yes, god forbid that a man can reform his behavior and change, no he should be judged on what he did as a teenager for the rest of his life.“Players need to be protected, especially in these big games when the result seems to be more important than people’s health.”
Thanks Jamie (former drug dealer's enforcer and rugby professional). What a hypocritical Flanker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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