Gay people - affected accent

How is it a stereotype if the OP is asking because they have witnessed it?
 
Henny Penny said:
but why do gay men (especially on tv) have affected accents ... ?
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MrMan said:
How is it a stereotype if the OP is asking because they have witnessed it?
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It seems like the reference is to 'gay men' in general, especially those on TV. Seems a bit like a stereotype to me.
See definition of stereotype:
"A stereotype is a simplified and/or standardized conception or image with specific meaning, often held in common by people about another group"

Nicola
 
I guess I was reading the OP's question with an open mind, but thanks for the lesson it's amazing the things you learn here.
 
Caveat said:
You obviously didn't spend a lot of time in some of the pubs in Leith or Wester Hales then!
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I was working in Pilton/Drylaw.
Dublin 4 it ain't! (lots of drugs/a murder outside where I was working etc, while I was there)
In fact, I accidently got in trouble one night with a psycho (male) 'schemie' in my local (very nice) pub, because I didn't recognise the difference in accents between 'nice' and 'dodgy'. In fact I didn't even know what a schemie was...
But still a lovely place, and lots of very 'posh'/well spoken accents floating around.
 
I knew someone quite well when I was a student, who seemed straight as an arrow, came out, and became sassy and camp as hell.
God knows why that happened!
I feel it is learned, irish school playgrounds would have exerted a very negative pressure on that when they were younger
 
Yes it's learned behaviour, but if there was no good reason for it, it would not persist. I can't remember where I read it, but there was an article somewhere on the roots\origins of "camp" behaviour in homosexual men. The logic was:

1. At a time when homosexuals were victimised in very severe ways, they had to find safe ways of expressing their sexuality, and safe ways of meeting and socialising.

2. Many were drawn to the world of theatre and drama; A more dramatic persona is wholly acceptable in this milieu; In an era when virtually nobody actually 'came out' it was a safer environment for gay people to meet and socialise.

3. Like many other cultural norms, which start within a subculture, it spread from here and became an element of mainstream gay culture which still persists, because it still fulfils a useful function: "camp" behaviour is a non-threatening way to identify yourself as a gay man.

I am sure that there are many behavioural patterns by which heterosexual men identify themselves as being interested in women - it is just that people aren't so conscious of these patterns.

I am summarising badly what I recall was a well written article. I might try googling for it and if I find it I will post a link.
 
MOB I think your summary is well written. Makes sense and also could explain why the Larry Graysons, John Inmans and today the Graham Nortons, Brian Dowlings etc camp it up. Also would explain now when people come out and are in every professions why they don't have to camp it up.
 

Dont gay men/women have a built in "gay-dar" that is supposedly fool-proof ? By that I mean that a gay man can spot another gay man within minutes of meeting him. So I am told anyway.
 
I definitely have Gaydar, right most of the time..
(also have a boyfriend, so i don't know where that leaves me! )
Nicola
 
Teabag said:
Dont gay men/women have a built in "gay-dar" that is supposedly fool-proof ? By that I mean that a gay man can spot another gay man within minutes of meeting him. So I am told anyway.
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Has this anything to do with being naked in a field full of thistles on a rainy day?
 
Did anyone see Q & A the other night, It was covering gay civil unions. Good ould Willie O' Dea was asked to comment on something a minister/TD said and he replied " We all say queer things from time to time" Much to the delight of the audience. Some dude from gay rights replied with "trust you willie to have a stairght answer" Priceless.
 
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