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tonka

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After digging the whole place up and making complete sh1te of it the contractors have suddenly disappeared , awol or bust one knows not

Galway Corpo has spent about €7 Million and got 1 new taxi rank and 6 new bus shelters for all its trouble.

Now the corpo has to buy the site (site = the very middle of Galway City) back off the liquidator and finish it , hopefully by the end of 2006 for the christmas shopping but you never know with Galway corpo.

end 2007 maybe , it'd be a great go kart track in the interim.

<sigh>
 
Just to cheer you up, Tonka...

 
From an interview with a SIPTU official on the Last Word tonight, it appears that the decision by the contractors to walk away from the job happened just after SIPTU approached the contractor about getting pension contributions paid over into the pension fund and getting an overtime premium for staff.
 
To be fair if this was one of the Contractors that wasn't paying into the pension fund then SIPTU were right to approach them. In the construction industry it is not uncommon for Pension contributions to be taken from the pay packets but never invested into the pensions.

I don't know if that's what happened in this case, but I'd have no problem shutting down a site even one as important as the center of Galway if the contractor was up to this sort of tricks.

My only question would be why it took so long to figure this out and bring it to a head?

-Rd
 
Presumably the company in question can be pursued throught the courts for breech of contract? Why didn't Galway Corpo do the job themselves from the outset? Surely they could find enough shovel nursers and hole analysers to do the job?
 
Henny Penny said:
Presumably the company in question can be pursued throught the courts for breech of contract? Why didn't Galway Corpo do the job themselves from the outset? Surely they could find enough shovel nursers and hole analysers to do the job?
Because the great God of privatisation dictates that we have to add a private sector profit margin onto the costs of all such initiatives.
 
RainyDay said:
Because the great God of privatisation dictates that we have to add a private sector profit margin onto the costs of all such initiatives.
don't forget the bit about it still being cheaper and quicker (in general) to get the private sector to do the job. Before you ask; no, I don't have the links to back that up, I've just been listening to the radio, watching the TV and reading the papers for the last 20 years.
 
The latest on this fiasco is that the contractors maintain they are not in breach and that the contract is therefore still in place. The corpo say that they are in breach but has not taken any legal action to ensure that the contract is terminated cleanly and quickly , thereby enabling them to retender it promptly and resume work .

The corpo will try to get the traffic moving a bit for the races , and will complete that temporary work soon , but beyond that there is no sign of the rest of the outstanding work being put out to tender for contract, never mind finished .

I'd say that the whole lot will be boarded up (to hide it) , possibly before the races but by end August latest, and there matters will remain until well into 2006 .

Meanwhile the corpo , officials and councillors, have kicked the whole issue off to a committee of local business heads who do not have the legal authority to do anything much but who will unfortunately (for them) take the rap for the delayed resumption of work.
 
Because the great God of privatisation dictates that we have to add a private sector profit margin onto the costs of all such initiatives.

Surely you're not suggesting that the Government should have in it's employ people who can perform every conceivable job. It makes as much sense for a Government to outsource non-core activities as it does for any business.

Would AIB, BofI, Intel, Microsoft, or any other company in Ireland create a contruction division within their own company to hire and train builders to work on their premises or etc? Of course not.

I think the problem you're referring to is more with PPPs than with getting work done by Private Companies.

Rd
 

Perhaps you should have been listening to the Comptroller & Auditor General instead - he found that the private sector isn't cheaper.


daltonr said:
Would AIB, BofI, Intel, Microsoft, or any other company in Ireland create a contruction division within their own company to hire and train builders to work on their premises or etc? Of course not.
Is maintaining infrastructure like roads, bridges, public squares part of the core activities of AIB, BOfI, Intel, MS etc?
 
In relation to the Corpo kicking the decision off to a local committee; it seems to have been their only choice.

This local committee is actually doing what the City Council should be doing, but there are too many strong egos with both personal and political agendas involved in City Hall, and many of them appear to have an ("I told you so") agenda to see the project fail, more than it has already.

The present Council have been making fools of themselves and the constituents since elected. The local press have also been playing to their fiddle. There is not one week that goes by that a certain councillor (with a PR background) does not appear in numerous photoshoots, most of which have no relevance to the city or council.

It's the voters choice.......next time around.