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Peggy Longst

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a new manager in my place of work has announced that I will work an extra half hour per day and take a flexi lunch hour - can this be done without consulting me first
 
No it cant be done, unless you aggree to it. Do not aggree to it unless you are happy with the change. The job you accepted was I presume for the hours you mentioned. Management can not apply new terms and conditions unless you aggree to it.

I am sure your outside life will be affected by this change. Dont accept rubbish like you are lucky to have a job.
New managers usually try to push peoble as much as possible. They are well aware of the laws but try to push people out the door or to work as it suits management.

By the way, when things get rough, do not resign without getting legal advice.
The new year may see changes in your job?
Start keeping a detailed diary of things at work. This may be important at a later stage.

Some may think I appear harsh, but I have noticed a tendancy in new management to push employees around a lot.

Consult with the Citizen Information service. The phone service opens 9am to 9pm, number is 1890 777 121. You could ring them and get their opinion. Also get NERA's opinion NERA Information Service Lo-Call 1890 80 80 90 .

The equality authority, depending on the circumstances might even have an involvement 1890 245 545 Relevant questions here are , are you the only one being affected, Is it because you are female etc.

Good managers consult with the workforce and explain everything. Good HRM requires this.
Remember dont resign without getting legal advice.
 
Wow - what good advice on how to work with the organisation that pays the wages - go into battle and get legal advice!!!!!!!!!

Never heard such rubbish. Just have a conversation with the manager and if it doesn't genuinely suit to change the hours, just explain why. Taking a hard line such as recommended by previous post will do nothing to enhance your relationship with the new manager. It could be a good opportunity to mention that a contract would be item you would like to have etc. If you are there four years I would not be going in all guns blazing!
 
Of course if the manager will listen talk to him.
If he did not consult with the employee before making the decisions, I would suspect he is not the listening type.
 
Claire1956 said:
Wow - what good advice on how to work with the organisation that pays the wages - go into battle and get legal advice!!!!!!!!!

Never heard such rubbish. Just have a conversation with the manager and if it doesn't genuinely suit to change the hours, just explain why. Taking a hard line such as recommended by previous post will do nothing to enhance your relationship with the new manager. It could be a good opportunity to mention that a contract would be item you would like to have etc. If you are there four years I would not be going in all guns blazing!
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I would not be too happy myself if my employer added an extra half hour every day onto my working week. I would not be accepting of it and can understand why the OP was advised to get legal advice. I agree to speak directly to the Manger before doing this however.

I dont accept that employers should be able to bully employees because there is a recession on. We all need to row in and try our best to keep our respective business afloat, but that does not include letting people walk all over you.
 
Claire1956 said:
Wow - what good advice on how to work with the organisation that pays the wages - go into battle and get legal advice!!!!!!!!!

Never heard such rubbish. Just have a conversation with the manager and if it doesn't genuinely suit to change the hours, just explain why. Taking a hard line such as recommended by previous post will do nothing to enhance your relationship with the new manager. It could be a good opportunity to mention that a contract would be item you would like to have etc. If you are there four years I would not be going in all guns blazing!
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+1 Wish there were more reasonable heads around.
 
MandaC said:
I dont accept that employers should be able to bully employees because there is a recession on. We all need to row in and try our best to keep our respective business afloat, but that does not include letting people walk all over you.
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have to agree with this.

I would be a little concerned over the fact that you don't have a written contract and you need to address this whatever happens with the current issue.

From what i've read on AAM, you would have an unwritten contract with your employer because you've been working there under the same conditions but i don't know the full details of this. Citizens Information website is good, have a look through that.

edit: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/c...ontracts-of-employment/contract_of_employment
 
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There are actually 3 issues here

Firstly your employers are required by law to provide you with a writen contract. As the manager is new, that is not his fault, but you could nicely point out that you don't have a contract, you understand you should have one and could he sort it out?

The flexitime lunch is possibly not an unreasonable request. Does it really make much difference to you if you go to lunch at 12.30pm instead of one

The extra half hour is a different issue. He does legally require your permission to do this. Have you asked him if you'll be getting paid for it?
 
Looking from the outside, the new manager was most likely uncomfortable making the request and was too bullish. That was wrong - but they are new, so a bit early to know if that is their general approach (plus remember they were most likely to have been put up to the job of making the request to you by their superior....)

When you say whether or not you want to accomodate the change, request the contract. You know that you are entitled to it, but it doesn't mean you have to be aggressive getting it. You 'appear' to be settled in the job if you are there 4 years, the ball is in your court and you have the control in this situation, not the new manager.
 
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