On arrival at the office, the 2nd son was asked to leave, against the wishes of the father, and the solicitor explained that should there be any dispute and/or subsequent court action regarding the validity of the will, he, the solicitor, would have to be in a position to testify that the father changed his will of his own volition and was not coerced into doing so.
You're up against two of the most powerful, unscrupulous and unaccountable professions out there,
Have to agree with all you are saying, I wasn't there either. 2nd son has been a friend for 20+ years and would, IMO, be extremely trustworthy, honest, very generous, not a money grabbing type of person.If what we are told happened ( and I have serious reservations that it did) -I might more believe that the 80+ ( who may or may not be totally compos mentis) perhaps regrets what he freely did and rather than say - oops! can I sort this? is trying to hide behind a set of allegations.
If he was "talked into "it, he can undo it very easily. Change the will, pull his authority/signature- the Bank will run very, very fast away from relying on any documents that are now said to have been signed under duress.
As a profession we have strict guidelines for dealing with "vulnerable" clients so, frankly, if what happened was in any way shady, it is easily enough undone. mf
And I suspect that the "average" solicitor (whatever that is) would be more concerned to maintain a positive relationship with a major bank than with the owners of a family business.
- the reason the father is reluctant to go to another solicitor is, according to 2nd son, that with his father's generation displays a typical loyalty to the 'family business solicitor' and he's also afraid it will end up in court;
Hi Tommy,Do you have any particular reasons for this suspicion? It just doesn't make much sense to me. The first loyalty of any professional service practice will be to their customers/clients, as it is they who literally pay their wages. I can't imagine any reason why a solicitor would prioritise their relationship with a bank over their relationship with a client.
Hi Tommy,
If a lot of his/her bread-and-butter work is in the area of property transactions, conveyancing, etc. a solicitor may (understandably) be keen to remain in favour with local bank managers who "put work their way". I'd initially suspected that the new papers signed in relation to the business loan might be more favourable to the bank's interests than to the 80-year-old father or his future inheritors. One hand washes the other. The solicitor needn't be formally acting for the bank for this to happen.
Also did the children who did not inherit get a good education so that they could make their own way in life.
Maybe my experience is untypical, but each of the three times I have remortgaged the lenders have referred me to the same local solicitor, although I found him very inefficient and a PITA to deal with personally. I mentioned it once to a colleague at work and he said he'd had the same experience with two other, different banks. Maybe it's a local thing here in Limerick?I'm not at all sure is it customary for bank managers to refer clients to solicitors - certainly not these days with centralised banking.
Maybe my experience is untypical, but every time I have remortgaged the lenders have referred me to the same local solicitor, although I found him very inefficient and a PITA to deal with personally. I mentioned it to a colleague at work and he said he'd had the same experience, with two different banks. Maybe it's a local thing here in Limerick?
A friend of mine (2nd son) was asked by his elderly father (80+) to accompany him to the solicitor's office as he wished to change his will.
The father called the solicitor to make the appointment
He was also asked to sign documents relating to the family business, which he had in previous weeks refused to sign numerous times as they put the family business and his own home, which is being offered to the bank as security by the 1st son, in jeopardy.
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