Hi Bemmi
I made those comments about the 'non-exclusive' jurisdiction thing. That is what the terms say, and it is unusual.
But I may have been unfair on Ulster bank. The term is..
(iv) The laws of Northern Ireland apply to the contract between you and us. The law which
we take as the basis for establishing relations with you prior to the conclusion of the
contract is the law of Northern Ireland. The courts of Northern Ireland shall have nonexclusive
jurisdiction over any disputes arising between you and us that are not resolved
by other means.
end term.
So the laws of N.I do apply, as stated in the first sentence. The second sentence also refers to laws of N.I.
The third sentence is seperate to the two previous, and qualifies the use of a non-NI court, 'in the event of a dispute not settled in another way'. So the courts of southern ireland could be used, if someone from the republic starts a case in the republic, and the judge agrees to accept jurisdiction. Ulster bank say that this is to benefit consumers, who might not want to travel to NI to a court case... so Ulster bank will agree to a case in another jurisdiction, if they have branches in that other jurisdiction. So perhaps Ireland, north and south, and the UK, but not Nigeria or North Korea.
But Nigeria and North Korea aren't ruled out, and the additional explanations given to me aren't actually in the terms.
But the terms do state clearly that 'the laws of NI apply... full stop'. So I'd be happy enough now actually with that. But a further clarification from Ulster bank, .. that they will only attend court cases in another jurisduiction if that case is instigated by the customer.. and that Ulster bank themselves will never begin proceedings in a different jurisdiction to NI.. that further clarification would be useful, and it isn't contained in the terms, but informally that's how they describe the terms. In court they might give a different intrepretation,.. which is why recording phone calls is so important. (The additional info was given to me in a phone call, and they probably expect that I haven't recorded it, I gave no indication of doing so, and intend the recording for 'private use' only, but nothing kinky)
So to be fair on Ulster Bank, .. I think they'r ok, but make up your own mind!
Cheers