The only problem with that is the the law does not care what you think... the law and common sense are two very different things.
I can't imagine a situation where an employee would come up to me complaining about such a scenario. I wouldn't entertain such school yard nonsense, and the staff would know this.
Being asked by posters here to apologise to this idiot is what's pathetic. Get real. At this stage, i would gather all involved, and remind them they're not flippen 12 years of age anymore.
Jeez, how do companies get any work done in such environments.
That's all well and good but as an employer to have a duty of care. That means that as an employer you have to deal with this or leave yourself open to being taken to court so, no matter how silly and childish you think this is (and I agree that it is), you have to held your nose and deal with it.I can't imagine a situation where an employee would come up to me complaining about such a scenario. I wouldn't entertain such school yard nonsense, and the staff would know this.
Being asked by posters here to apologise to this idiot is what's pathetic. Get real. At this stage, i would gather all involved, and remind them they're not flippen 12 years of age anymore.
Jeez, how do companies get any work done in such environments.
I can't imagine a situation where an employee would come up to me complaining about such a scenario. I wouldn't entertain such school yard nonsense, and the staff would know this.
Being asked by posters here to apologise to this idiot is what's pathetic. Get real. At this stage, i would gather all involved, and remind them they're not flippen 12 years of age anymore.
Jeez, how do companies get any work done in such environments.
Your employers ability to review the messages in the group comes down to whether it has a policy as per Barbulescu.
The only problem with that is the the law does not care what you think... the law and common sense are two very different things.
I can't imagine a situation where an employee would come up to me complaining about such a scenario. I wouldn't entertain such school yard nonsense, and the staff would know this.
Being asked by posters here to apologise to this idiot is what's pathetic. Get real. At this stage, i would gather all involved, and remind them they're not flippen 12 years of age anymore.
It was once "common sense" that women should not be entitled to vote
It was common sense that ordinary people (the rabble) should not be allowed to vote as they were too stupid.
That's the thing with a Common Law based system, it evolves.
I take your general point, Leo, although the right to vote did not evolve through Common Law.
Also, I think you may have slightly misquoted me.
Grown up people thinking it is funny to share a meme on social media about a fellow employee.
Although, to be fair, people have always talked about, joked about, gave out about,etc., others in their social network or work group behind their backs. Its why I always go to social occasions in my own network when I can - so as not to be the subject of the conversation! More seriously, though, social media has transformed the norms - and dangers - around this.
God, this makes me despair for the world my children are going to grow up into. Grown up people thinking it is funny to share a meme on social media about a fellow employee.
The difference with this case here is that it was not social media where people can opt to see what you are saying. It was a private group messaging each other just like a conversation in a pub. If they knew someone was listening they would not have said anything.Yeah I know. But as you say, the internet and social media have completely changed the rules on this and it amazes me that adults struggle to understand this in a work environment. A colleague of mine got in trouble because he had his job title and where he worked on his personal twitter handle ( Don't ask me why). He had a little disclaimer stating that the views expressed were his own personal views and not those of the company. He then made some stupid sexist insensitive comment about a rape case and of course people re-tweeted and included the company. His defence was 'But I put a disclaimer on it'...
It wasn't shared on social media its not like it was put up on Facebook/ Twitter for the world to see it was in what was meant to be a private message please don't tell me u have never complained or called anybody in ur whole life something behind their back when u been annoyed at them As I've stated before from it was 1 thing that I personally couldn't even remember until reminded Its not a on going thing where it's been done everyday This group as stated was NOT set up to make fun of this person
It doesn’t apply to the person who volunteered the message but it does apply to the others.That doesn't apply here as the messages were voluntarily submitted to the employer in support of a complaint.
Also the person who screenshot it is not the one who gave it to the employer The employer is claiming not to know who took the screenshot so it was given to employer by the person who wasn't in the groupIt doesn’t apply to the person who volunteered the message but it does apply to the others.
Which means it was shared and in the possession of people outside your group,Also the person who screenshot it is not the one who gave it to the employer The employer is claiming not to know who took the screenshot so it was given to employer by the person who wasn't in the group
It doesn’t mean it can be used though, for disciplining.Which means it was shared and in the possession of people outside your group,
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