We are getting vaccines through the EU. What would calling Astra Zeneca achieve?Why not? We are not doing enough. To hear on the radio yesterday that our minister for health has not even phoned Astrazeneca about anything was dreadful to hear.
What should be the case?It shouldn't be the case.
No, we aren't the biggest though we are in the top ten. The government did have those discussions but we don't have capacity or the correct infrastructure.Are we not one of the biggest producers of pharma in the world? Could we not have entered discussions with one of the companies about setting up a production line here?
I agree but we can't.Yes, a small country that should have been able to move a lot quicker than we have.
What they said;My understanding that interest rates are near zero when borrowing money? Could we not borrow now and pay later? Get it sorted.
Who do we buy from?
We could if there were significant quantities of vaccines not already locked into contracts AND we avoided a bidding war with other countries thinking the same.
But they just aren't there yet. In the short term the EU programme we are in is the only game in town.
Possibly, and this is just me flying a kite, we could be talking to the countries (e.g. US) for a cash and swap deal for AZ vaccines which they have, and don't appear to be using anytime soon i.e. we will use the vaccines now and re-allocate some of our future stock to replenish it.
Everybody is pursuing a "Us First" strategy. The WHO is pointing out that such a strategy is morally repugnant and scientifically questionable. Political expedience trumps all though.That sounds great and is the line being pushed by the WHO and EU but how realistic is that in all fairness. It could take decades for that to be achieved when you look at how long it took to get polio vaccine to the poorest countries. What are lockdowns and sun holidays and hospitality supposed to remain closed until the poorest are vaccinated?, that's actually what one senior expert was suggesting which is preposterous, some of these experts really have come out with some daft suggestions.
I think alot of this talk is being used to give cover to the seriously deficient European vaccination roll out. Even joe Biden united States is pursuing an America first strategy
Who's rolling them all into one issue?@Purple but all those things are lovely sound bites, trying to roll climate change, social justice and now vaccine rollout into the one issue.
Why's is not an achievable measurable target?It just gives a good excuse for ineffectiveness, there is no point in speeding up vaccine rollout because all of Africa needs to be vaccinated aswell, that's not an achievable or measurable target, whereas vaccinating all of Ireland by a certain date is.
The WHO has been talking about doing the right thing for ages, nearly as long as me!That's the reason why all this other stuff is being thrown into the mix now.
Ah it can. There's very little chance of any of us starving. If there are new variants against which existing vaccines are significantly less effective then we can look forward to more lockdowns in the future. Doing the right thing morally is also the right thing scientifically and economically. It's just not politically expedient.Our economy cannot cope for many more months of this anyway. The European Central Bank had to step back into the bond markets this week to buy more government bonds especially of Italy and Greece to prevent interest rates going back up again. Therefore the markets are saying the time is nearly up for lockdowns and unlimited government borrowing to pay for it.
Well the Novovax doesn't have 90% success rate against all variants for a start so lets not get carried away.
I am sure the UK do plan on all adults receiving their first dose by June. Ireland is still claiming 80-90% of adults by June.......Politicians make promises. Lets see what happens
Where did you get the 55% figure for the Brazilian variant?It has an average of 90% efficacy against a variety of strains with the Brazil one at 55%.
It has a 100% record against death or serious illness through Covid.
It really is time to get carried away - once the vaccinations start.
It has an average of 90% efficacy against a variety of strains with the Brazil one at 55%.
It has a 100% record against death or serious illness through Covid.
It really is time to get carried away - once the vaccinations start.
There is a huge amount of publicity about AstraZeneca and what they are, or are not doing.
What about the Pfizer vaccine? Can we get more supplies of this? Comment has gone very quiet.
I sometimes think that the HSE is not interested in the Pfizer vaccine because it is too difficult to handle/store etc.
Pfizer are performing very well with 38.1 million delivered with an average of 4.25 m per week over the last few weeks, and as was posted are giving the extra 4m .There is a huge amount of publicity about AstraZeneca and what they are, or are not doing.
What about the Pfizer vaccine? Can we get more supplies of this? Comment has gone very quiet.
I sometimes think that the HSE is not interested in the Pfizer vaccine because it is too difficult to handle/store etc.
Where did you get the 55% figure for the Brazilian variant?
So people get a mixture of variants??? Otherwise what is the point of quoting averages.
I have no issue with getting excited and it will be a very useful vaccine but stop making claims that aren't true. It doesn't have 90% success across all variants like you claim. Indeed, the efficiency dropped below 50% in SA and the SA variant when HIV positive patients were included. I would also suggest caution on the the claims of 100% protection against severe illness considering only 5 people got severe Covid in the Placebo group and there were no deaths.
Still welcome news.
Are we not one of the biggest producers of pharma in the world? Could we not have entered discussions with one of the companies about setting up a production line here?
No mention of Brazilian variant the 55% relates to SA variantReuters
Novavax vaccine 96% effective against COVID-19, 86% against U.K. variant: study - National | Globalnews.ca
There were no cases of severe illness or deaths among those who got the vaccine, the company said.globalnews.ca
Have you tried phoning yourself?To hear on the radio yesterday that our minister for health has not even phoned Astrazeneca about anything was dreadful to hear.
Be good fun actually. Put on a real cultchie accent too. "yeah yeah, just bring the trailer round the back'n Mick'll drop it back to the Coop Monday"Have you tried phoning yourself?
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