And I'm glad to see you tarring all Palestinians with the same brush.
Most Irish people have never heard of the PRC, let alone support them
And I'm glad to see you tarring all Palestinians with the same brush.What nice people. I'm glad to see that most Irish people support them in their struggle to wipe Isreal (that evil democracy) off the face of the earth.
I've never seen anybody decapitated by a blow from a pen though...If you give in to these religious bigots, you merely reinforce the idea that, ultimately, the sword is mightier than the pen.
Also - not all Palestinians are Muslims.And I'm glad to see you tarring all Palestinians with the same brush.
Most Irish people have never heard of the PRC, let alone support them
Au contraire Clubman! Bellini's 'The Beheading of John the Baptist', hanging in the Louvre was done by pen. I'm pretty sure that if you were an unfaithful COB then you could be decapitated by a vicious flap of your jealous PEN's wing.I've never seen anybody decapitated by a blow from a pen though...
When did I do that?And I'm glad to see you tarring all Palestinians with the same brush.
You said that "most Irish people support them". Now considering that most Irish people have never heard of the PRC let alone support them I felt that you were inferring that most Irish people supported the Palestinian struggle. If that was not correct, then your assertion that most Irish people support the PRC is laughable. Ask anyone you meet today if they have heard of the PRC. I had to Google to see who they are.When did I do that?
I quoted some Palestinian leaders and made a sarcastic comment about what nice people they are. Read what's written, not what you want to read.
Most Irish people are utterly ignorant of the facts or history around the Palestinian struggle and blindly support any Palestinian group that attacks Israel.
Why the personalised attack?Now you are tarring Irish people with the same brush!
You're good at this. Plenty of practice?
Most Irish people are utterly ignorant of the facts or history around the Palestinian struggle and blindly support any Palestinian group that attacks Israel. They ignore the culpability of countries like Jordan and Syria and blame Israel for all grievances, real or imagined, that the Palestinians have. These are, for the most part, the same idiots that are blindly anti-American.
With Hamas in charge in Gaza anyone who printed the Danish cartoons would not have their head attached to their body for very long. I do not support any country that is governed by fundamentalists, be they religious or secular. The reality is that since the coup which put Hamas in charge the Palastinians in Israel who are Israeli citizens enjoy more freedom than theose who live in Gaza.
I did not say that the majority of Irish people support murder, I said they support anyone who opposed Israel even though those people commit murder, target civilians etc. Look at the support the PLO have/had here.I strongly disagree that the majority of Irish people support the murder of anyone especially blindly. Thats' an outrageous statement and is what prompted me to reply again to this thread.
There were plenty of Irish cracking heads and keeping the locals "in their place" when we were part of the UK. It doesn't fit with our national moral superiority complex but them's the facts.I am glad that my country had no hand act or part in any imperial or colonial empire building. I think this gives most Irish people a more objective viewpoint of what happened without the interference of guilt or sanctimonious egos.
Read up on the creation of Jordan and Israel in 1948.I have no idea who the PRC are. Please explain what duty Jordan and Syria have towards the Palestinians which we as fellow human beings dont have ?
I agree but I reject the notion that there is any moral equivalence between Israel's transgressions and those who specifically target civilians. BTW, that does not excuse Israels excesses.The reality I can see is all sides of the very complex equation are wrong and have done things which are morally wrong. Anyone who can claim that the ethics of the situation are simple and reducible to a few lines is frankly being really silly.
Again, I agree.There can be no winners and I dont think any side will ever leave this mess feeling clean as even those who think they have the prize are either twisted with fear and hate or have become psychopaths due to the stresses of a lifetime of conflict.
I know the mosque well ........ at the top of St. Thomas's Rd. And I've also seen at first hand the type of anti-social behaviour that these people indulge in. But fancy a British court slamming an ASBO on any of them? Not likely! Civil liberties etc etc. Not mentioning the civl liberties of the indigenous people. However, it would be interesting to see if they would cause the locals any hardship on a day that Arsenal were playing at home - before they moved. I'm sure the Millwall fans would not take the same view as 'the thin blue line'. "No one loves us - we don't care", is their chant!I lived in London for many years and was shocked to see a weekly anti- british rally outside a Mosque in Finsbury park, the demonstraters burnt Union Jacks and called on Jihad, while police just stood around to keep peace. Imagine if there were rallies here were Tri- colours were openly burnt in Irish cities. The freedom of expression that some groups oppose is the exact thing that allows them to peddle their hate.
I lived in London for many years and was shocked to see a weekly anti- british rally outside a Mosque in Finsbury park, the demonstraters burnt Union Jacks and called on Jihad, while police just stood around to keep peace. Imagine if there were rallies here were Tri- colours were openly burnt in Irish cities. The freedom of expression that some groups oppose is the exact thing that allows them to peddle their hate.
No, Northern Ireland has (had?) some laws about flag burning but Britain has none. We have a protocol on how the flag should be treated but no laws.Is it a crime in the UK or Ireland to burn the relevant national flag?
The British people in general are a very tolerant people. Maybe - with the benefit of hindsight in say 50 years time - history will show they were too tolerant and welcoming to immigrants in the late 20th century etc.
I edited out that part as it was unfair on my part but I guess you had replied pretty quickly.Why the personalised attack?
NoAre you suggesting that the majority of Irish people are aware of the complex history of Palestine? (It's a yes or no question)
NoAre you suggesting that most Irish people do not support the Palestinians? (It's also a yes or no question)
Now for you. Did you suggest that most Irish people support the PRC (yes or no)
I did not say that the majority of Irish people support murder, I said they support anyone who opposed Israel even though those people commit murder, target civilians etc. Look at the support the PLO have/had here.
Read up on the creation of Jordan and Israel in 1948.
There were plenty of Irish cracking heads and keeping the locals "in their place" when we were part of the UK. It doesn't fit with our national moral superiority complex but them's the facts.
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