Customers paying through the nose for new ATMs in shops

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ajapale

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Friday's Indo had a rather breathless story about the new ATMs in shops and overcharging.

I think the indo is just plain wrong! In answering a question here about a year ago I contacted two major providers of in store ATM services BOI and EasyCash (now UB) at the time and they confirmed that there were no additonal charges levied for use of these machines. I have used them for over a year now and havent noticed any charges going through my account.

What are the Indo on about? Does anyone know?


ajapale
 
The ATM's with the charges associated are generally 'non-bank' owned ATM's. I think that you will find that any of the ATM's that carry a bank logo will have the same charge structure as in-branch ATM's.
So a good rule of thumb wuld be to exercise care if using 'non-branded' ATM's.

I suppose it is not too hard to see why the costs are so high. If your only business is running ATM's, then you have to buy them, maintain them and keep them filled with cash. This requires a good bit of infrastructure which will not be already in place already -unlike the banks. Finally the retailer will have to get a cut also.

I think that if it was mandatory for the cost of the transaction to be displayed on the screen before you click 'ok' then there could be no complaints.
 
Rogue non-branded ATMs in shops

Rogue non-branded ATMs in shops
Hi Soy,

Thanks for the reply.

When I checked with EasyCash last year they were independant operators. They were subsequently acquired by UB. Even when they were independent they did not charge more than than the branch ATM's. When I rang them they stated their undersatnding that it was illegal (in the Republic) to charge more.

Has anyone actually seen one of these rogue ATM machines? Are they a figment of the Indo's imagination? If any one is aware where they are perhaps they could post the location here and we can avoid them.

ajapale
 
Re: Rogue non-branded ATMs in shops

As far as I am aware, there are no such ATMs in Ireland - maybe the Indo were picking up on reports from UK & NI of similar charges........????
 
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Certainly in the US and the UK some ATM's do charge a fee, but it is always displayed before you complete the transaction and you can cancel if you want.

In the US even the banks charge a fee for using the ATMs.

Never seen it here. Don't think it happens, but I might be wrong.

-Rd
 
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I think the term is stringing or plain old fashioned lazy journalism. This is a story that has been doing the rounds in the UK press for a few weeks. The situation there is that one is charged up to £1.50 for each transaction. I suspect the Indo hoovered up the scoop!! Lazy dumbwits
 
Re: Rogue non-branded ATMs in shops

Hi Nat, I honestly dont think this is lazy journalism just very confused (Christmas) journalism - none of the other papers have picked up on the story. The Journalist in question is Brian Dowling.


It seems that some independent installers (possibly from the uk) are seekting to set up machines here and they want to charge. IFSRA have written a letter to the Oireachtas Committee indicating their opinion...and from there the story grew legs.



ajapale
 
Yep! - Lazy Journo

Sorry Nat, It looks like you were right, it was a lazy journo all right!

See IFSRA statement here:

[broken link removed]


and the note:

 
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BOI ATMS in corner shops carry the same ATM charges as if you were using a branch ATM (something like 26c). Indo reporter got it wrong.

That sort of farce of a report instills doubt and fear unnecessarily into the minds of consumers - I hope the Indo promptly published a retraction!
 
Re: Yep! - Lazy Journo

soy,

That sort of farce of a report instills doubt and fear unnecessarily into the minds of consumers

I agree, I think the damage that has been done to the in store atm operators has been tremendous. I havent seen a retraction or an apology from the Indo. I saw a half assed mention of the the issue in the Hearld ask Bill section.

ajapale
 
Re: Yep! - Lazy Journo

I agree, I think the damage that has been done to the in store atm operators has been tremendous.

absolutely. i was in the pub the other night with a large group and one of my friends swore that 5 euro appeared on his bank statement for using one of those machines. i said at the time that it sounded like bollox but didn't have any absolute rebuttle so i didn't argue the point. i'd be pretty sure that all those in the group who oohed and aahed at this news will avoid those machines like the plague. i reckon those companies have a reasonable case for claiming damages from the indo.
 
Re: Yep! - Lazy Journo

This is the original post on the topic of in-store atm charges.
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