Sophrosyne
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If I changed my name and then decided to sue a person who owed me money from last year, I fully expect to have to prove that I am still the same person, albeit with a different name, and am therefore still owed the money.
Séamus Coffey reports on the proceeding in Court Circuit Cork today. A bad day for the banks all round. The Judge refused one lender a repossession although the borrower had consented to it. But the following is potentially more significant.
"#2 and #3 actually turned out to be the most interesting. These were applications for substitute service by Bank of Ireland. It seems the borrowers can be found to effect service on them so the bank had an application before the court to allow substitute service by ordinary post. Both applications were struck out by the judge with no order allowing substitute service. Why were they struck out? Because the motion was in the name of Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank. The judge asked “what is the legal status of the plaintiff?” He was told it was a bank. He said a bank is not a legal status and struck out the applications. The judge said a plaintiff has to have a legal status and that you can’t bring an action before the court if you don’t have legal status. As Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank was also the plaintiff on another case the issue was going to arise again."
I have checked in the CRO and indeed Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank is a properly constituted legal entity. [broken link removed]
So these cases should not have been thrown out.
Brendan
Have now read the other responses.
The bank appear to have made some basic errors in their applications.
Given that they have access to the finest legal eagles available, is that really acceptable?
If so, how many errors should the courts accept from people who do not have access to legal representation?
The holder of the mortgage was incorporated as Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank plc. It subsequently re-registered as an unlimited company and therefore changed its name to Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank.
It was called Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank when the mortgage was registered in its name. The consensual application for a possession order pursuant to this mortgage was therefore made in the correct name.
The judge was very obviously factually incorrect in suggesting that the applicant had no legal status and there is absolutely nothing in the report to suggest that there was any error in the application.
Unfortunately the lender's barrister was unaware of the lender's corporate history. This should have been irrelevant and we will all have to pay for these judicial ego trips.
This could all have been cleared up if the judge had simply put this matter back to the end of his list
Agreed, but there were only a few items on the list and the hearings for all cases were over in less than an hour.
Brendan
This reminds me of a case many years ago where legal action instituted by The Munster & Leinster Bank Limited was thrown out because the & did not appear in the cert of incorporation whereas the word "and" did. I hope my memory serves me rightThe holder of the mortgage was incorporated as Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank plc. It subsequently re-registered as an unlimited company and therefore changed its name to Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank.
It was called Bank of Ireland Mortgage Bank when the mortgage was registered in its name. The consensual application for a possession order pursuant to this mortgage was therefore made in the correct name.
The judge was very obviously factually incorrect in suggesting that the applicant had no legal status and there is absolutely nothing in the report to suggest that there was any error in the application.
Unfortunately the lender's barrister was unaware of the lender's corporate history. This should have been irrelevant and we will all have to pay for these judicial ego trips.
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