The right thing by their children is to get a house, the best house they can get, even if that involves lying.
The right thing by their children is to get a house, the best house they can get, even if that involves lying.I have no evidence other than perhaps a misplaced trust in people to generally (I did state minority) do the right thing by their children. I don't see any evidence for the opposing view either. Conor Skehan doesn't actually state anywhere in the article that people are deliberately overstaying in hotel/b&b accommodation in order to game the system.
You'd stay in Dublin if you were really only spending half the time or less in the B&B and the rest with your parents in their council house, just like people did for decades before the State giving you a house became a human right.Why not think of this another way. If you had no job, and no income other than the dole. Would you stay in Dublin with your children in a hotel room for a year or two or three? Or would you move to rural Ireland and rent a house, paid for by the state?
Yes oddly Dublin is full of people giving to charity who wouldn't dream of letting a homeless person into their home. (not would I btw). There are council houses that have three or four bedrooms where the original occupants have passed it down to their single son or daugher. Or same house but sons and daughters have moved out and parents are still in the council house either as a couple or single.A lot of Charities = a lot of CEO's, CFO's, Policy Officers, HR Heads etc. Its a racket and everyone and anyone is getting in on it.
I saw last night on the Claire Byrne Show a charity from Portlaoise that come up to Dublin 2 nights a week to give out food and clothes. Another lad who's coming up from Monaghan with hundreds of coats and hangs them on the Ha'penny bridge every week but now the Corpo are removing them.
Madness
I think there's a lot of merit in the article but disparaging people who live in B&Bs or Hotels where families have to walk the streets during the day and have nowhere suitable to do their homework is obnoxious - some of them may be waiting and playing the system for "a forever home" but I would think that's a very small minority, a little bit of empathy wouldn't go astray. Season's greetings and all that.
I wouldn't last in a B&B for a day never mind a week. But if I wanted to get a free house in Dublin I might. Particularly if I had nothing else and I had no intention of working. My siblings had to work in Dublin. When they couldn't afford Dublin rents they lived out of town wherever that was. And if that didn't make sense they moved elsewhere. I've had siblings and friends in Dublin city center, staying with relatives, digs, moving out to Kildare etc. Moving out of a Dublin apartment when it got too small for the growing family. Not one of them ever spent a night in a B&B or hotel. And when they lost jobs they moved home or back to a spouse (celtic tiger to bust to boom). I know many people from abroad who are moving to Dublin. Despite the accommodation crisis.You'd stay in Dublin if you were really only spending half the time or less in the B&B and the rest with your parents in their council house, just like people did for decades before the State giving you a house became a human right.
If I were in a hotel with a load of other people I'd ask the hotel if I could use a function room to organise homework classes (when the function room was empty) and I'd make sure that I'd leave the space spotless so the hotel would be happy to accommodate me.I think there's a lot of merit in the article but disparaging people who live in B&Bs or Hotels where families have to walk the streets during the day and have nowhere suitable to do their homework is obnoxious - some of them may be waiting and playing the system for "a forever home" but I would think that's a very small minority, a little bit of empathy wouldn't go astray. Season's greetings and all that.
Did those people not occupy an empty building a year back and try and put homeless people into it. Until it all went pear shaped. Because much like the state there are some people it's near impossible to help.Aghhh Brendan, this does not suit the prevailing narrative of SF, PBF, Solidarity, Cillian Murphy, Glen Hansard etc etc. Everything’s the fault of the Government, clearly. Of course houses can be built in a week, everyone knows that. And sure nobody ever objects to proposed housing and apartment developments. Stick to the script Brendan.
Particularly if in reality you weren't homeless but rather living in your parents house most of the time.I wouldn't last in a B&B for a day never mind a week. But if I wanted to get a free house in Dublin I might.
What's that evidence of, other than a stupid, populist, knee-jerk policy?
its not as it you actually scrubbed a toilet to earn the money.
The simple solution to homelessness is guess what...to build houses.
Thank you and yes, it was lovely.Nice Christmas spirit on show here folks, hope you enjoyed a good nights sleep and the Latte tastes good this morning.
Yes, That's what many of us have been saying. I've been pointing out how difficult that it due to labour shortages.The simple solution to homelessness is guess what...to build houses.
10 years ago they were losing money.Your rents are at levels that you could not have dreamt about 10 yrs ago
How do you know?and besides, its not as it you actually scrubbed a toilet to earn the money.
Indeed.And we need 21st century house building methods.
And please, to the landlords , give up the moaning about how much income tax you pay on rental incomes. Your rents are at levels that you could not have dreamt about 10 yrs ago, and besides, its not as it you actually scrubbed a toilet to earn the money.
10 years ago they were losing money.
We need modern good sized appartments in high rises. With proper regulation as to what gets built.And we need 21st century house building methods.
I moved into my current house 4 years ago. Recognising that I am an excellent tenant and that coming up with the rent each month was a struggle my landlord lowered it by €100 a month. He has not increased it since. I'm currently paying about €500 - €600 a month below the market rate. If I move out he can't increase it much now and if the Shinners and their FF lap dogs get their way he won't be able to increase it at all. Why should my landlord be punished for being nice?And there were many voids too. It is a cyclical business. And each time the governement intervens they make it worse. All the landlords threatened with this latest law should up their rents. I know I wish I had. But I naively didn't want to do it to my tenants. More fool me.
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