Congrats Kilkenny 4-in-a-row

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Well done to KK hurlers today. Class team and amazing achievement. Good game of hurling too.

And well done to the Galway minors. Hopefully we can finally produce a senior All Ireland winning team from all the underage talent.
 
Teatime said:
Well done to KK hurlers today. Class team and amazing achievement. Good game of hurling too.

And well done to the Galway minors. Hopefully we can finally produce a senior All Ireland winning team from all the underage talent.
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Can't help though the overwhelming feeling that Tipp were completely robbed of it.
 
MrMan said:
Can't help though the overwhelming feeling that Tipp were completely robbed of it.
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The penalty wasn't a penalty and such decisions should be correct on such a big day.. In saying that Tipp should have converted their goal chances and should have been out of sight at that point...
 
Tipperary were robbed. A terrible referee decision turned an excellent game around. Tipp were the better team and didn't deserve to lose.
 
YOBR said:
The penalty wasn't a penalty and such decisions should be correct on such a big day.. In saying that Tipp should have converted their goal chances and should have been out of sight at that point...
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Both sides fluffed two good goal chances, one side were given penalty that never was, it completely let Kilkenny off the hook because until then they were on the ropes.
 
The penalty was harsh. I thought it was a 21. All the same though really as we will never know whether Comerford would have scored the next goal anyway.

Tipp will have their day soon enough. They have a young team.
Kilkenny v Tipp again next year???
 
YOBR said:
... In saying that Tipp should have converted their goal chances and should have been out of sight at that point ...
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Congratulations Kilkenny, it was well deserved.

As a Tipp supporter I rue the missed (and saved) chances in a second-half where possession seemed to be split 70/30 in Tipp's favour, but they failed to translate possession and territorial dominance into scores.

What a match! What men! With professionals in other codes suffering a deserved bad press from cheating and nancy-boy tactics it was a joy to see two amateur teams behave like true warriors and deliver a spectacle few other sports can even dream of and not a cheque-book, blood capsule, WAG, leather whip, Nazi uniform or PR parasite in view.
 

I agree with this, as much as i feel agrieved by the outcome it was the best match in any code that I can remember. Both teams deserve great credit for delivering such immense performances with the pressure that they were under.
 
MrMan said:
Both sides fluffed two good goal chances, one side were given penalty that never was, it completely let Kilkenny off the hook because until then they were on the ropes.
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Not so sure about that. Kilkenny were 2 points behind against 14 men when the penalty decision was made. If the free was given instead, it would have been 1 point behind with around 10 mins lef. KK have always been very strong finishers - I know my own Galway were caught out in recent years by late KK goal 'bursts'. I think Tipp were fading and KK would have gone on to win if the correct decision was made -a 21 yd free. Comerford and Larkin showed their class in the last 10 minutes.
 

Given the way the ref was letting things go the penalty go have just as easily been a free out for steps. The penalty was a huge blow. I don't think it's fair to say that Tipp were fading at all.
 
MrMan said:
Given the way the ref was letting things go the penalty go have just as easily been a free out for steps. The penalty was a huge blow. I don't think it's fair to say that Tipp were fading at all.
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I actually thought Tipp would finish stronger as they are a fitter team but I think they ran their hearts out for 60 mins and they looked visibly tired in the last 5-10 mins while KK flourished. The 2 goals would not have helped but KK are masters at driving home an advantage. Larkin had time and space to fire over 2 lovely points in the last few mins whereas up to that point none of the KK forwards had any time at all. Tipp will feel they let this one slip but KK dont have 4-in-a-row from relying on the referee.
 
I feel it is a bit of the Man Utd's about this one,
The GAA ,the ref wanted the famous 4 in a row like utd for so many years getting penalty's when there was none, no conceding a penalty for nearly 3 years at home, that type of thing.

Kilkenny have to know in their hearts that they should not have won
 
dodo said:
Kilkenny have to know in their hearts that they should not have won
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Yeah right - KK won by 5 points and Tipp have often left big games behind them in recent years (Galway, Limerick & Waterford) - Tipp have only won one game in Croke Park since 2001.

Having said that, I would put money on Tipp to win next year. Its often said about finals that you have to lose one to win one.
 
Larkin had time and space because Tipp were out of time and going for goal. The penalty definitely changed the course of the game.
 

I don't think the ref did anything malicious, Kilkenny may have won regardless, but we will never know.
 
dodo said:
Kilkenny have to know in their hearts that they should not have won
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I'm sure all the kilkenny players know in their hearts that at 2 points down with 10 minutes to go and having an extra man they simply could not have gone on to win had they only managed to get a 21 yard free rather than a penalty.

A 1 point margin would have simply been a bridge too far, after all Kilkenny Hurlers are known for their lack of belief, poor scoring record and an inability to win games from behind
 
MrMan said:
Larkin had time and space because Tipp were out of time and going for goal.
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Re time and space - there is also the fact that a veteran Tipperary player lost the run of himself and assaulted arguably Kilkenny's best player. Bad form but Walsh got up straight away while Dunne got the straight red. Unforgivable.
 
Teatime said:
Re time and space - there is also the fact that a veteran Tipperary player lost the run of himself and assaulted arguably Kilkenny's best player. Bad form but Walsh got up straight away while Dunne got the straight red. Unforgivable.
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What's that got to do with the penalty? Dunne was foolishly riled into making a dangerous swipe. Red card, clear cut and correct decision, it's the incorrect decisions that rankle. Kilkenny were no angels by the way.
 
I think a few of the Tipp fans on here could learn a lesson from Liam Sheedy in how to take defeat graciously. The simple fact is that even though they had most of the play they were beaten fair and square on the day by a team that is now widely considered the greatest ever hurling team. They only have themselves to blame for losing the game - to blame the referee for one decision is just petty and anyone doing so is only showing themselves to be less of a man than any of the real men who participated in that fantastic spectacle. I have no doubt Tipp will learn from this and come back stronger from it. Congratulations to Kilkenny, a truly magnificent bunch of hurlers (and management team!).
 

So what your saying is to divorce ourselves from the emotional connection of a hectic match, ignore a blatant controversial incident that had a massive bearing on the outcome and be manly men?
Kilkenny may have won regardless, it's just a shame that such an important decision at such a vital stage was cocked up so spectacularly.
 
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