Concerned about GAA run local lotteries

Henny Penny said:

As far as I'm aware the club must apply for a lottery licence to operate this type of lottery. There was a case in my neck of the woods recently where a club (not GAA) was applying for a licence - the case was adjourned because somebody objected - the objector claimed he should have won the lotto when his numbers came up$ but was not given prize. His objection was to the lack of paper trail ... envelopes going missing etc.

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Henny will you be going to a certain match on Nov 21 by any chance ???

Have to share the suspicions of mercman. The GAA club lotto is so fraught with danger that it is unreal. There are people going around every Friday and Saturday night selling club lotto envelopes, pocketing the money, not giving receipts of the numbers chosen and basically catching people out when they are most vulnerable — when they have drink taken. It is going on all over the country and there is no accountability and no paper trail. If you win, it is pot luck; if you don't, you don't know the difference anyway. Not saying all clubs are scamming but I know those acting on behalf of clubs who are more than dubious.

DeclanP said:

there is no accountability and no paper trail.

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This is patently untrue, as demonstrated clearly above. Don't bother posting on discussion threads if you're not going to bother reading the actual discussion.

mercman said:

It's not the dodgy practice I am aware of. It is common knowledge in the area concerned. Whilst the Lotto has been taken away from the person concerned there were never any records kept for years - common knowledge again. Its not make believe, it is that I am not involved with the GAA and have no intention of becoming involved.

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If you're not involved, perhaps there is accountability at meetings/AGMs that you are not aware of?

Complainer said:

If you're not involved, perhaps there is accountability at meetings/AGMs that you are not aware of?

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The particular instance I was quoting was a few years ago. At the time many questions were asked but answered with threats. In the same club the Lotto Jackpot was held but was depicted as no winner, when a certain individual came forward the following day with a winning ticket. After much foray he was given his prize but to date has not been invited to buy another ticket. Can or could do nothing about it as one of the big wigs of the GAA is involved. The GAA have done enormous work for the youth of Ireland, but fail miserably outside these parameters.

mercman said:

to date has not been invited to buy another ticket. Can or could do nothing about it

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Is this a problem for him? If so, surely he can buy a ticket in a local pub or shop, where such tickets are generally sold.

I don't see the point of your reference to "one of the big wigs of the GAA". Nobody is above the law, least of all those with a duty of care towards other people's money. Remember the case of the senior Waterford GAA official who was subjected to Garda investigation last year amidst allegations of a financial shortfall - a case that ended tragically.