So the only reason FF got back into power was becase the private sector workers put them there?
Do you really believe they will just get rid of all the dead wood in 1 clean sweep or do you believe as I do that all the brown nosers and ass wipers will be the last to go.
No, but many of the Private Sector workers who are now jumping up and down about partnership, benchmarking etc must have voted for them in the last election. Presumably because they were doing very nicely themselves, thank you, and didn't want to rock the boat.
I have never seen any information about the occupations of individual voters nor do I believe any exists except maybe private polls by parties.
Do you really believe they will just get rid of all the dead wood in 1 clean sweep or do you believe as I do that all the brown nosers and ass wipers will be the last to go.
1 I think John Mc Guiness is bucking for the leaders job and will say anything that will get him noticed
2 The problem with trying to bring cuts into the PS is you have to employ more staff to find out where the cuts can take place.
Madness I know
3 I would love to know which person leaked that report
4 Can't comment about this because I don't know anything about that
5 See above
Unlike the PSCS bashers I don't rattle on about things I know nothing about.
Well maybe once in a while
If you ask me, it was the latter as just when the first redundancies, pay cuts, etc were hitting the private sector, the PS/CS was talking about striking over any move the government wanted to make in order to reduce costs.
Not one political party came out and said they would reverse benchmarking or scrap social partnership if they got into power so where was the alternative?
There's that expression again. I feel a song coming on...."Feelings...Nothing more than feelings......"
I'd continue but I don't know the words.
Not one political party came out and said they would reverse benchmarking or scrap social partnership if they got into power so where was the alternative?
So why assume that because FF got back into power, that no-one had any issues with benchamrking etc?
I don't remember it even coming up as an issue. And, if you're unhappy with the way a Government is performing, you don't vote for them, and tell them you won't be doing so, in order to let them know of your dissatisfaction. Voting for them and then saying that their policies on partnership and benchmarking are what brought the economy down is not very bright.
I am amazed at the amount of people and the media who now, so vehemently, complain about the public sector yet yet have not advocated any change or reform over the past 20 - 30 years. To infer that that such an opinion for reform would, if articulated by enough people, who not have caught the attention of political parties is rubbish. While I accept that individuals may have issue with benchmarking by voting for the same party for the last 20 years no meaningful change was achieved.
I don't know why people in the civil service and public sector are so against reform.
Agreed, I think a number of people are embarrassed that their individual voting choices have resulted in this so we now need people/groups to blame, (the bankers, the public servants, the immigrants) all to make us sleep better at night that it was them and not ME that got us into this.
I'm amazed that you think it's only now people have a problem with benchmarking. It's always been there and this has been represented in the media.
However, this has no relation to voting for FF. You're implying that FF only got back because of private sector employees, ignoring the support for FF within the PS and other sectors that directly benefited in government.
Thats rubbish. I have never once voted FF in my life but I don't blame FF voters for getting us into this mess.
All the political parties deserve blame for what has happened.
they may not have got us into this mess, but they supported the government that did. I, as a civil servant, did not vote for ff because, despite benchmarking, i could see beyond my own personal situation to the fact that they are a morally bankrupt party.
Well if we accept reports that An Bord Snip Nua is saying cut at least 20,000 jobs, I think it is safe to assume that there are areas of the public and civil service that are highly inefficient and overstaffed...
So the people who voted for them are blameless too? In some senses this issue is a useful microcosm on Irish people and their political choices, too many people decide their voting on local issues rather than on long term strategic considerations.
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