Yes, but as a Civil Servant I am objecting to a lie printed about us in the paper. If lies are printed about other groups, they should also object. Saying it happens all the time doesn't excuse it or mean people who have been unfairly insulted should just put up with it.
Not buying their publications...
Excellent post, excellent points.I've never excused it, trust me on this, I'm involved in highlighting it and trying to get the standards raised, my point was that you perceived an anti-CS/PS agenda, however it's just poor journalism. There are plenty of times when SIPTU acting for the PS has had statements reproduced and agendas printed without qualification as if they were fact. The point is it works both ways, and you have to be mindful of opening a can of worms that may ultimately harm your cause.
As always, if it is such a egregious error/untruth, do what most do and send a letter to the Editor to clarify. It's limp and lame and it will never repair the damage fully though, but at least it's something on record.
You could only take 7 uncertified sick days a year, and this was a maximum figure not a target.
I can take two days of uncertified sick leave; after that, I need to produce a doctor's note.
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Civil Servants can also only take two days together before producing a doctor's cert.
Bit OTT. If someone said that about the Bearded Brethren or the smoked salmon socialist party your'd be the first one venting your indignation.Both O'Leary and the SIndo cronies are attention whores.
I can take two days of uncertified sick leave; after that, I need to produce a doctor's note.
My girlfriend has even more stringent rules than this. She can take two days off sick, once she passes that, she is no longer paid and has to sign on for any days she's ill.
Not sure if the previous poster meant 2 days in total or two days together.
I meant I can take two days uncertified leave in a year. I think that's fair enough. Seven days uncertified leave is crazy though.Not sure if the previous poster meant 2 days in total or two days together.
I meant I can take two days uncertified leave in a year. I think that's fair enough. Seven days uncertified leave is crazy though.
Yes, but as a Civil Servant I am objecting to a lie printed about us in the paper. If lies are printed about other groups, they should also object. Saying it happens all the time doesn't excuse it or mean people who have been unfairly insulted should just put up with it.
... Was out last night with colleagues of mine from the CS. The barman (who is a shareholder in the place) was throwing this and other mistruths at us all night. Asked him did he ever have a problem taking our money over this. Left us alone after that.
You are probably right but it is so populist at the moment to lambast and ridicule civil servants that we don't even notice it anymore.
OK, enough. I've finally had enough of this woe is me, everyone's picking on us attitude. (Not directed at you personally Boris, just in general.)
First, I'm sorry, but there is nothing special about people in the vast majority of the PS/CS. Nothing that requires a special protection from the harsh realities of what is going on.
People are especially annoyed now because they've always felt/known that there are parts of the PS/CS that are massively over-staffed and also massively inefficient and ultimately it's costing a fortune. The thing is, people were annoyed before the bottom fell out of the FF Stamp Duty Pyramid Scheme and that's when we could afford it. Now, we’re pretty much livid.
If employees of the PS/CS can't see some of the realities that we really do not need that many people working in indirect services, that some of the archaic practices and agreements run the risk of bankrupting the country; that simply, at this very moment we just cannot afford this behemoth of a system, then you can understand why some people are a bit tetchy.
The PS/CS spin machine will always work to try and link any cut in personnel with less nurses, teachers, fire fighters, gardai. It will let us think we'll be raped and murdered in our homes, our dear old gran will die uncared for, our kids will be just one illiterate number in a class of 100, because of any cut. It won't mention the over paid and under worked administrative side. It won't mention archaic nursing agreements that mean the HSE has to use agency staff (union members of course) even though there are full time staff available.
It'll get the "pension levy" mentioned within the media in every sentence the PS/CS is mentioned. Try a proper pay cut, one that you'll never get back, not something that goes towards a very generous pension that'll you'll get back when you take early retirement. Now that’s spin, even O’Leary could take a tip from that spin machine.
And even though the public see through the spin, naturally it's us who are wrong and unreasonable. I mean, the nerve of us wanting to hold a PUBLIC or CIVIL service to account. The nerve of us expecting that one of the largest drains on our very brittle public revenue is protected and shielded from the realities of what is happening right now.
I see now just how inappropriate and unreasonable I have been. For shame on us all in the private sector.
People are especially annoyed now because they've always felt/known that there are parts of the PS/CS that are massively over-staffed and also massively inefficient and ultimately it's costing a fortune. The thing is, people were annoyed before the bottom fell out of the FF Stamp Duty Pyramid Scheme and that's when we could afford it. Now, we’re pretty much livid.
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