Tomodinhio
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Anyone think that Alex Ferguson will never win another trophy for the rest of his career? Given Man Us financial situation and dependancy on aging players who they cant replace, it looks like they're on the slide.
Let us not forget that Manure still hold the embarrassing record for being for being the quickest team to be relegated after winning the European Cup - 6 years . As you may have forgotten, I remind you that in 1974 a certain Man. City player (was his name Law?) sent them down with a neat back dink.
Oh how the mighty fell !
History can repeat itself - roll on 2014
MrMAn
You are obviously clinically obsessed with the colour red - Manure red ! As with all Manu supporters, you can only see the positive side of the club.
In the list above of 25 , you have only denigrated one player, ie Mr Anderson (though he still has a season to redeem himself I see !)
I thought that in football you had to play against 11 men, not a whole squad.
If they were all that good, you would have won the Premiership by Easter and beaten Bayern Munchen 5-0 in each leg.
But you did neither.
Let us not forget that Manure still hold the embarrassing record for being for being the quickest team to be relegated after winning the European Cup - 6 years . As you may have forgotten, I remind you that in 1974 a certain Man. City player (was his name Law?) sent them down with a neat back dink.
Oh how the mighty fell !
History can repeat itself - roll on 2014
Anyway, the United relegation of 1974 can be traced back to the Munich disaster in 1958.
The emotional fall-out of winning the European Cup 10 years after Munich (and relief because they really should have won it on '66) was never addressed.
That's stretching things a bit.
Ah, bless...... Should they have had more group hugs?
That's stretching things a bit.
Ah, bless...... Should they have had more group hugs?
What about the Cottagers, they've done brilliant to get to the Euro Cup final. I hope they can pull another suprise win out of the bag tonight. COME ON FULHAM
Well if you examine this further you get the following;
1.Van der Sar, he may have only 1 or 2 more seasons left, but he is still a top Goalkeeper. Was once good, now too old.
2.John O'Shea has finally gotten the recognition his play deserves after becoming an integral part of the Irish set up. Average player who wouldnt start for most elite teams.
3.Vidic is generally regarded as one of the best centre halves in the world. Rubbish. Average Premiership player with some obvious flaws.
4.Ferdinand has his critics but is still a class act and an ever present in the England set up. Lazy player who drifts in and out of games. His concentration lapses often cost England goals.
5.Evra would get into any team, and is consistently one of our top performers. Good going forward, but average in defense.
6.Nani is one of the most improved players this season and has shown more than enough this season to give hope for next year. Powder puff sort of player who will produce flashes of skill, the totally disappear for the rest of the game.
7.Valencia has had a great first season at the club and seems to be under-rated. Dissappointing season even according to Man U fans. Had zero impact this year.
8.Park has also just gained recognition for his input to the team. Only there to sell kit in the far east. Wouldnt start with most Premiership teams.
9.Scholes is on his last legs but those legs are still more capable than most midfielders in open play. Great player, but getting on in years.
10.Rooney, enough said Great player if used correctly.
11.Berbatov, the fac that the jury is still out doesn't bode well for him, but he has as many admirers as he has detractors, I think he could still be there next year. Dissappointing - didnt justify his price tag.
So from 1-11 it doesn't look bad and add the following and things don't look so bad.
12.Giggs, again coming to a finished but has plenty to offer until he hangs up his boots. Once a great player, but too old now.
13. Owen, I don't understand his criticism this year as he has been a good goal threat and a very impressive squad player. Too fragile.
14. Carrick, poor season by his own standards but still a fine player. Is this guy even up to Premiership standard?
15. Brown, consistent defender, strong fullback/centre half You must be joking. Has been found out at Champs League level - most opposition teams target him when he plays.
16. Neville, 1 year left but can do a job when needed. Too old.
17.Hargreaves, if he has recovered then he is a super holding midfielder. Has never produced except briefly for one season when in Munich. Classic one season wonder who likes his sick notes.
18. Anderson, looks great then disappears, he has a season to do the former consistently or away he goes. Agreed.
19. Raphael, looks very promising and should be vying for a consistent slot in defence. No name make weight in the squad.
20. Obertan, looks really promising and has had some real impact in his first season. Who????
21. Evans, commanding centre half, looks a star player. Will never be anything except a run of the mill pro.
22. Fletcher, has grown in stature this season. Too light weight - cant handle head to head battles with elite midfielders.
Add in the promise of Macheda, Wellbeck, Gibson (in fairness he has shown more than promise). All unproven.
Doesn't look too bad, but there's no doubting a bit of added class is required.
You don't think the disaster would of had an effect on the club? Leaving aside club loyalties/bitter rivalries etc, would you not consider the tragic death of your friends and colleagues to be an incident that would have a bearing on you and those around you for some time?
I believe that most Man U fans admire Harry and how Spurs play football. Spurs have always had a tradition of playing entertaining and attacking football. Well done to them.
I think after 16 years, they should have come to terms with it.
If you are perfectly honest, how many of the above would start at Chelsea or Arsenal? 1 or 2 at a push? How many would even start at Liverpool, who finished 7th? Maybe Rooney?
Man Us titles are all about Ferguson. Once he goes, they are in serious trouble. Its very noticeable that a lot of ex-Man U players who transfer to other clubs never reproduce their Man U form.
We could do with a Right Back and a Midfielder.
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