Central Vacuum Systems

MacTheKnife1

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Can anyone recommend a [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]central vacuum system? I have looked at beam, they sem quite good. Are they? Are there any competitors out there I should know about?

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I don't know about makes/suppliers etc. but a friend of mine has one installed in his guesthouse and it is forever giving him trouble .... blocking up regularly.

He has one big regret .... not having enough access points to the system.

His vacuum collection is external to the main house and at one stage he had to dig up a patio area to get to a blockage.

The 'blockages' have had to be freed by the company's service man.

The advantages are great ... plug in your hose and off you go .... no machine to haul about .... but the disadvantages are a major turn off.
 
I don't know about makes/suppliers etc. but a friend of mine has one installed in his guesthouse and it is forever giving him trouble .... blocking up regularly.

Any chance you can find out and tell me which company instaled that system? Sounds like a disaster.
 
The system is called 'Beam' (American) ..... he got it through an agent.

He reckons the agent was at fault .... bad piping installation .... joints outside/not sealed etc.

Otherwise he's pleased with it overall ..... no bag, no noise, no exhaust fumes etc.

A new agent was appointed so he reckons that has solved the problem.

You can see more here: http://www.beamvac.com

Just realised Beam was the make you had looked at ..... duh me! A lesson learned .... read OP's post carefully in future!
 
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Great thanks. Makes me nervous to deal with the comany given the problems he had tho. Might give them a call.

The company wasn't the problem ... the original agent was. He installed the piping but had sharp turns, joins in the pipes externally not being sealed etc. They have appointed a new agent so he reckons that problem wouldn't occur again.

On the whole he's very pleased ..... he's good at 'unblocking' now!
 
I have a built in system with no problems its a BEAM so dont be nervous they are excellent. Got it through an agent in Tipperary
 
I have vacuflo for the last nine years with not one single problem
 
I would not recommend the central vacuum. The suction is nothing compaired to your standard Nilfisk or Dyson vacuum. Also small items get blocked in the pipes which are difficult to remove. I have heard that it can also depend on how far away the motor is from the actual outlets. (the closer the motor the more powerful the vacuum.
 


Emerb, this is complete nonsense.

Central vacuum systems can be more or less powerful that your standard Nilfisk or Dyson vacuum, it all depends on what size system you install. There are central vacuum systems available that will do a complete hotel, with a number of people vacuuming at once, while others are only suited to a small apartment. In picking the suitable unit for a house you must consider the floor area of the house, and the total distance of piping that will be installed. You can compare the suction strength of different units by comparing the water lift value. The bigger the stronger, it compares the units by showing how far up a specific sized pipe the system can draw a column of water.

Blockages in the system are generally due to poor installation, and are very uncommon if installed correctly. The nozzle on the inlet hose should be narrower that the rest of the pipe work to prevent objects which are too big to travel through the system from entering it. The only problem here is if a long narrow object enters the system. However, this should get caught at the wall inlet as there should be a sharp 90 degree bend behind it to prevent these objects passing into the system. This is the only place where a sharp 90 degree bend should be installed, sweeping 90 degree bends should be used elsewhere. There are many other important points to consider when installing junctions where pipes meet, but any good installer will know about these.

If you do get a blockage, it can generally be removed by sucking it back out through the inlet. Never try to force a blockage further into the system.

You also mention that the further you are from the unit, the weaker the vacuum. This should not be a major problem as since only one inlet is open at a time, a vacuum should form in the rest of the sytem. Again, correctly matching the correct size unit to the particular house is important.

I have diy installed a Beam system. Its very straight forward as long as you follow a few simple principles. However, if you do not understand how the system works, pay the few quid extra and get it installed.
 
Emerb obviously has a Vacuum cleaner repair business. We have a Beam system which was in the property when we purchased. Apart from 1 service visit in 5 years no other problems and the house get vacuumed every day. Previously we had massive problems with the Dyson and others. The only one which we never had a problem with was the American Kirby, which are very good but weigh a ton to be dragging around.

One note, it would be quite hard to install a Beram after the property has been built.
 
We have a Sach Typhoon central vacuum fitted by John Kinsella from (I think) Kilkenny.

Very happy with it, one problem only so far which was a dodgy outlet (replaced no bother). We wash the filters every so often.

We have some quite long runs back to the garage and the suction is fine. Don't skimp on outlets as, if you do, you'll end up with a really long hose!

As for conventional vacuums we had a Dyson which stood up to years of abuse, we finally tried and failed to kill it cleaning up building dust instead of using the central vacuum and it was still working! I took it to the Recycling Centre with a tear in my eye!

SSE