The rules aren't preventing potential buyers from buying, a lack of available housing and increased population numbers are what's preventing them.Because if more people can actually buy homes, developers will build more homes to meet that demand.
I have seen estimates that the Central Bank rules are preventing as many as 500,000 potential home buyers from buying. In other words, the rules are restricting the “realisable” demand.
This doesn't make sense. The demand is there already.Because if more people can actually buy homes, developers will build more homes to meet that demand.
I have seen estimates that the Central Bank rules are preventing as many as 500,000 potential home buyers from buying. In other words, the rules are restricting the “realisable” demand.
And our apprenticeship training is rubbish and utterly outdated.We encourage our school leavers to go to college, some for meaningless courses, rather than go into trades. So the number of apprentices is miniscule.
Supply is inelastic but that doesn't mean that the demand side can do nothing.This doesn't make sense. The demand is there already.
I have seen estimates that the Central Bank rules are preventing as many as 500,000 potential home buyers from buying. In other words, the rules are restricting the “realisable” demand.
Labour shortages for one. The industry doesn't have the capacity to build more. How does introducing more demand solve that?Supply is inelastic but that doesn't mean that the demand side can do nothing.
Supposing you put vouchers through the doors of 100,000 first-time buyers. They would read "This voucher can be exchanged for a new-build house before the end of 2025. It entitles the developer of said house to €500,000"
Do you think you would not get more housebuilding? If not, why not?
People will retrain. People will come from other countries. People will work overtime.How does introducing more demand solve that?
is more expensive housing at a time when demand is so high a good thing?
The Commission thinks that Irish house prices are actually undervalued by reference to average household income growth and long-term average house prices....is more expensive housing at a time when demand is so high a good thing?
Take a couple on €100. They can borrow €350k over 30 years at 2.5 at €1294 a month, or 25% of their net income of €5,160.A couple on 100k a year with no other debt can borrow €350,000 under these limits. A couple on 100k a year with 30k debt can also technically borrow up to €350,000 according to the CB if the bank is satisfied with their own underwriting that they can afford the 30k debt repayments on top of the mortgage. But if the Central Bank only care about 'systemic risk' and banks over lending, why are they using blunt instruments that only look at mortgage debt? Individual banks will look at everyone's overall debt level and affordability so why don't we have central bank limits based on the same criteria??
Even with a 200bp increase in rates the high-income household is pushed to mortgage payments of 34% of net income on mortgage payments, the low-income households just 28% of net income. There is a point where the pips start to squeak and it's closer to 40%. Research shows that 95th percentile for mortgage-service-to-income ratios are about 40% in many EU countries. In Ireland it's below 30%.
The ratio of debt to disposable income of Irish households was 209% at the end of 2009.
Since then it has fallen consistently as households have paid down debt and incomes have grown.
It is now at exactly 100%, a fall of over one half.
Irish households are in no way over-leveraged.
You are also forgetting that while the Loan to Income limit is 3.5 , the Central Bank rules allow 20% of mortgages to be above this cap for first time buyers.
But they are much more binding now with 2.5% interest rates than in 2015 when interest rates were more like 3.5%.The rules have been carefully calibrated. And they have helped contain the big increase in house prices.
Yes - there are many renters that would prefer to buy. That's given.The Commission thinks that Irish house prices are actually undervalued by reference to average household income growth and long-term average house prices.
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Take a standard three-bed semi in a typical Dublin suburb - say, Lucan. The average sales price is around €350k. The monthly cost of a 90% mortgage @2.7% over 30 years is around €1,300. But to rent that property, it would cost around €2,300 per month.
Don't you think a renter would rather buy that property if they could?
Now let's say the Central Bank raised the LTI ratio to 4 and the price of an average 3-bed semi in Lucan increases to €400k. The monthly mortgage payment would rise to around €1,450 per month - still a heck of a lot less than the cost of renting that property.
But more importantly, developers would be significantly more incentivised to build new homes. Isn't that what we need?
It's amazing how labour shortages melt away when there's money to be made...
Are you saying that prices are not going up?Also - what's stopping developers from raising the prices as of now? If the demand is there surely they can do this already? Maybe they're just a charitable bunch.
No, more saying what's stopping developers from putting prices up even higher. Or high enough to make it worth their while to build.Are you saying that prices are not going up?
What's stopping developers from putting up prices to a level that will incentivize them to build new homes? The demand seems to exist already. CBI intervention should not be needed.developers would be significantly more incentivised to build new homes.
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