They lead the way in showing us what it means to be free. Praise them.
Agreed. If it was not for uncle Sam, ( and their colleagues over the past few generations , the British ) , we would be speaking German or Russian now ( those of us not in concentration camps or Gulags ). The US ( or the UK ) are not perfect, but a lot more people escaped from Cuba to the "west" rather than the other way around.
Agreed. If it was not for uncle Sam, ( and their colleagues over the past few generations , the British ) , we would be speaking German or Russian now.
The Americans are here because of tax reasons (or sometimes IDA bribes), not for charity. Did you not know that?Next you will be thanking the Americans for all the jobs they provide!
The Americans are here because of tax reasons (or sometimes IDA bribes), not for charity. Did you not know that?
There's no need to thank them. If EU tax harmonisation kicks in, they'll soon start leaving.
I can only speak from personal experience over the last 10 years dealing with customers in the USA, Europe, the UK, Asia and Ireland but I have found Americans to be efficient and technically knowledgeable but the thing that really differentiates them from us is their clarity of thought and ability to make decisions quickly. They are also far more honourable in their dealing than Irish people and well stick to their word."It would also be good if we worked as hard or as smart as Americans"
In fairness, I think we probably do. Longer holidays perhaps, but our productivity is right up there.
So you mean we could have endured decades (perhaps centuries) under the rule of another nation /quote]
If the Nazis or Russians overun these islands only a generation or two ago, yes. The nazi plan - in the event of a complete German victory in Europe - was for the men from these islands to be used to build an Autobahn to India. ie useful extermination. If you have ever been to places like Dachau or Auchwitz, you will see how they treated minorities from many different countries. Talking of India incidentally, a full 25% of the British administration in India comprised of Irishmen.
To get back to the subject, America was and is not perfect, but it provided a lot more jobs to Irish people than Cuba ever did.
A 'serious accusation'? - it's freely available for anyone to see on their website;I was not aware that the IDA gave bribes. That's a serious accusation, you should back it up.
1. Something, such as money or a favor, offered or given to a person in a position of trust to influence that person's views or conduct.
A 'serious accusation'? - it's freely available for anyone to see on their website;
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It is under 'Financial Incentives'
this is certainly a bribe, [broken link removed]
Did you not know the IDA did this?
Where did I imply that the process was illegal? I would certainly question the ethical implications, but I never implied anything illegal was going on.The implication is that brides are illegal payments to the individual.
A bribe doesn't have to be illegal, and the way the IDA operates certainly fits your definition of bribing, above.–noun 1. money or any other valuable consideration given or promised with a view to corrupting the behavior of a person.
I think you should consider your posts a bit more on a public forum. If you made that accusation about a private company they would be well within their rights to sue you (or Brendan as the owner of AAM).and the way the IDA operates certainly fits your definition of bribing, above.
Did you even read my posts? (BTW, When quoting, please include all the relevent text. Otherwise it can be quite misleading)I think you should consider your posts a bit more on a public forum. If you made that accusation about a private company they would be well within their rights to sue you (or Brendan as the owner of AAM).
Maybe all the 'dishonourable Irish' should sue you!I can only speak from personal experience over the last 10 years dealing with customers in the USA, Europe, the UK, Asia and Ireland but I have found Americans to be efficient and technically knowledgeable but the thing that really differentiates them from us is their clarity of thought and ability to make decisions quickly. They are also far more honourable in their dealing than Irish people and well stick to their word.
Basically they can make clear business focused decisions faster and better than their Irish counterparts.
Yes.Did you even read my posts?
You said;You jumped to the conclusion that I was suggesting the IDA was acting illegally, which was not the case.
The definition that I posted was;and the way the IDA operates certainly fits your definition of bribing, above.
My conclusion was based on this. In what way is it inaccurate?–noun 1. money or any other valuable consideration given or promised with a view to corrupting the behavior of a person.
I did not say that the Irish were dishonourable, I said that Americans were, in my experience, more honourable. Did you even read my post?Maybe all the 'dishonourable Irish' should sue you!
This is not acting illegally.Originally Posted by leghorn http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?p=591734#post591734
You jumped to the conclusion that I was suggesting the IDA was acting illegally, which was not the case.
You said;
Quote:
Originally Posted by leghorn http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?p=591734#post591734
and the way the IDA operates certainly fits your definition of bribing, above.
The definition that I posted was;
Quote:
–noun 1. money or any other valuable consideration given or promised with a view to corrupting the behavior of a person.
My conclusion was based on this. In what way is it inaccurate?
Yes, I read your post. It was quite an offensive sweeping generalisation, based soley on nationality. I would also say that to be honourable is an absolute.Quote:
Originally Posted by leghorn http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?p=591734#post591734
Maybe all the 'dishonourable Irish' should sue you!
I did not say that the Irish were dishonourable, I said that Americans were, in my experience, more honourable. Did you even read my post?
We have had anit-bribery laws in Ireland since 2001. Making a counter claim does not change this, no matter how often it is made.This is not acting illegally.
(I'm sure I've made this point already...)
I agree. That's why I said "more honourable", thus making it relative.I would also say that to be honourable is an absolute.
Now post the source, so I can see how these particular laws are phrased. Maybe the IDA are acting illegally after all.We have had anit-bribery laws in Ireland since 2001. Making a counter claim does not change this, no matter how often it is made.
How can something be both absolute, and relative? - are we getting into quantum theory here?I would also say that to be honourable is an absolute.
I agree. That's why I said "more honourable", thus making it relative.
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