Andrew Murphy
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Let me start by stating that I am in no way undermining the seriousness of Covid-19 on the vulnerable in society but I cannot figure out why or how the proposed immunity passports are going to help control the disease, especially given the comparatively small number of people that go on to experience serious effects/death out of a total population of c. 6 million.
Despite reading widely I cannot find a valid argument that supports the notion that the passport will control the disease, for what I have read the virus mutates, so the anti-bodies that result from having had the disease and/or vaccine are only relevant to that particular strand of the virus - much like the annual flu. Therefore a passport stating I have had the virus/vaccine does not guarantee that I am not carrying or suffering from a mutation, which kind of renders the logic for having the passport pretty pointless.
Just so you know where I stand on the matter let me simply state that I am sceptical and see the true purpose of the proposed passports as a way to control the population by stripping away individual rights and freedoms, and at least in this country being introduced as an Universal ID document to replace the Social Services Card which the Government tried and failed to make conditional before applying for a driving licence, passport, etc. So assuming the passports are made "voluntary" and I choose not to get one, it is likely, judging from past performance, that the Government will over time expand the purpose/scope of the card (despite what they may initially promise) such that I will be precluded from accessing Government services, or worse still being told where I can or cannot go, who I can or cannot socialise with, etc. because I don't have the correct 'papers'.
In short I see it as a first step towards an Orwellian state, the beginnings of which we are already witnessing.
So who benefits from the passports and how?
Perhaps those who eagerly await the introduction of these passports might want to enlighten me. I'd appreciate hearing genuinely held opinions and not those parrotted by the stenographers in main stream media so I can try understand the rationale and get my head around it.
Thanks.
Despite reading widely I cannot find a valid argument that supports the notion that the passport will control the disease, for what I have read the virus mutates, so the anti-bodies that result from having had the disease and/or vaccine are only relevant to that particular strand of the virus - much like the annual flu. Therefore a passport stating I have had the virus/vaccine does not guarantee that I am not carrying or suffering from a mutation, which kind of renders the logic for having the passport pretty pointless.
Just so you know where I stand on the matter let me simply state that I am sceptical and see the true purpose of the proposed passports as a way to control the population by stripping away individual rights and freedoms, and at least in this country being introduced as an Universal ID document to replace the Social Services Card which the Government tried and failed to make conditional before applying for a driving licence, passport, etc. So assuming the passports are made "voluntary" and I choose not to get one, it is likely, judging from past performance, that the Government will over time expand the purpose/scope of the card (despite what they may initially promise) such that I will be precluded from accessing Government services, or worse still being told where I can or cannot go, who I can or cannot socialise with, etc. because I don't have the correct 'papers'.
In short I see it as a first step towards an Orwellian state, the beginnings of which we are already witnessing.
So who benefits from the passports and how?
Perhaps those who eagerly await the introduction of these passports might want to enlighten me. I'd appreciate hearing genuinely held opinions and not those parrotted by the stenographers in main stream media so I can try understand the rationale and get my head around it.
Thanks.
