Update, stuck with it and finally got it closed, all down to the professionalism of the Receiver who intervened, understood the blockages and saw it through when solicitors on my side and the sellers side could not, delays as a result of waiting to get two signatures on releases, some people are of course too important to bother getting their fingers out and at least one of these two boyo's working as liquidators to the charge holder fall into that space as he caused the severe delays, still curious how much of this is going on causing deals to fall away, oh and by the way Allsop were not interested when I raised it directly with them.