Beeb's list of British Oscar nominees

[ClubMan]

I see Peter O'Toole was included in the Beeb's list of British Oscar nominees tonight. Does he hold a UK passport or something?

Update: oh - I just read elsewhere that it's not clear where he was born and it could have been Leeds rather than Connemara, Dublin or Kerry.

 

[sherib]

Originally Posted by ClubMan
I see Peter O'Toole was included in the Beeb's list of British Oscar nominees tonight

That's the usual but on Sky News last night I noticed he was referred to as "Irish actor Peter O'Toole". Don't know where he was born - possibly in Wales. If he wins I wonder will be still be Irish.

I notice too on the TV channels from across the water, when the weather is on, they always exclude mentioning the weather here even when the map of the British Isles (that's due for a change of name I think) is shown. Doesn't bother me at all that they seem to need to re-inforce asserting their patch. Kind of sad really. This weather thing is particularly noticeable with Utv.

 

[mickeyg]

He was born in Connemara - Clifden!

 

[ubiquitous]

From wikipedia

Although O'Toole has previously given his birthplace as Connemara, County Galway, he has himself suggested that this may not be accurate in the first volume of his memoirs, Loitering with Intent, saying that this was the "family version", and that he may have been born in either Kerry, Dublin, or, perhaps, Leeds, England. To avoid such complications for his children, he has ensured that both his daughter Kate and son Lorcan were born in Dublin. Elder daughter Patricia was born in England, a mistake which O'Toole regretted, famously saying: "Pat was born in Britain, the poor thing."

In her own memoir, Public Places, his former wife Siân Phillips says, "...he may or may not have been born there, but he is a true son of Connemara." His father, Patrick Joseph O'Toole was an Irish bookmaker and his mother, Constance Jane Eliot (née Ferguson), was a Scottish born nurse.

He appears to be about as Irish/British as your average Charlton-era Irish soccer player.

 

[pat127]

Irish.

I notice too on the TV channels from across the water, when the weather is on, they always exclude mentioning the weather here even when the map of the British Isles (that's due for a change of name I think) is shown.

I suppose the question is why should they be obliged to give the weather for the Republic? What European country shows its neighbour's weather? The reason I presume why they show the 'British Isles' is that they need to do so in order to show the weather for NI.

Just my opinion!

 

[MugsGame]

Because a man is born in a stable that does not make him a horse.

-- Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington

 

[GeneralZod]

I came across this quote from Wellington yesterday in "The Fall of Feudalism in Ireland" in " A chapter of English testimony". Perhaps it hints at why he said the above.

"I confess that the annual recurring starvation in Ireland for a period, differing,
according to goodness or badness of the season, from one week to three months,
gives me more uneasiness than any other evil existing in the United Kingdom....
Now, when this misfortune occurs, there is no relief or mitigation except a
recourse to public money. The proprietors of the country, those who ought to
think for the people, to forsee this misfortune, and to provide beforehand a
remedy for it, are amusing themselves in the clubs of London, in Cheltenham or
Bath, or on the continent, and the Government are made responsible for the evil,
and they must find the remedy for it where they can - anywhere excepting in the
pockets of the Irish gentlemen. Then, if they give public money to provide a
remedy for this distress, it is applied to all purposes excepting the one for
which it is given, and most particularly to that one, the payment of the arrears
of an exorbitant rent." -- Duke of Wellington, 1830

 

[Persius]

I suppose the question is why should they be obliged to give the weather for the Republic? What European country shows its neighbour's weather? The reason I presume why they show the 'British Isles' is that they need to do so in order to show the weather for NI.

Just my opinion!

I don't expect BBC to give weather for ROI as we don't pay any licence fee. Nor do I expect either BBC NI or UTV* to do so, as they are regional.

But ITV*, CH4, SKY etc are commercial stations that broadcasts in ROI and takes adverts with ROI-specific content. Sky realise this, and their weather forecast includes ROI. They often refer to "Southern Ireland", and I'm never sure if they mean ROI, or just that part of the island south of the Dublin - Galway line. I'm not sure what CH4 or ITV do, but would be surprised if ITV are particularly bad at this given UTV's interest in business in ROI.

* by UTV, I mean programs aimed specifically at NI. By ITV I'm referring to the general program schedule, which is received throughout the island of Ireland as UTV.

 

[Guest127]

anyone remember a few years ago when our government asked the either the Swedes/Norwegians/Danes etc not to specify Ireland when they were giving the weather forecast but to call it 'western europe'. the scandanavians, give them their due- refused. I live in county louth so the bbc weather is handy enough, but I would not expect them to provide a forcase for all of the island. on the other hand when bbc 'mainland' is giving the weather they always show both isles , something we don't do. its not rocket science to watch the bbc and guess our weather. this isobars/cloud cover are usually a give away.