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cleverclogs7

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What happens if a bar stays open AFTER closing time and the owner is attacked bY one of the drinkers.
What penalties could the owner face ?
 
Unless it was a very serious assault its unlikely the owner would inform the Guards & even less likely he would be pressing charges. I am sure there would also be issues with insurance if there was damage to the premises.
Its an interesting one. Some more information would be nice.
 
cleverclogs7 said:
What happens if a bar stays open AFTER closing time and the owner is attacked bY one of the drinkers.
What penalties could the owner face ?
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This is a strange question!

Why should the owner be penalised for being assaulted? [I presume that is what you mean by "attacked".]

A publican can face charges for allowing after-hours drinking on the premises. If, however, a publican brought a complaint against a customer for assault, it seems to me unlikely that the fact that it happened during after-hours drinking would make any difference whatsoever -- nor should it.
 
But they have both broken the law. Why should one law be enforced & the other not.
What happened to everyone is equal under the law?
 
it was my brothers bar.he has cracked ribs.didnt inform police.getting married tuesday.no damage to bar.just a local got a bit to drunk and took it out on the bar owner(brother)
 
Thats an awful thing to say.think if it was a member of your own family.shame on you.the locals were having a bit of a do for the christmas.
 
cleverclogs7 said:
Thats an awful thing to say.think if it was a member of your own family.shame on you.the locals were having a bit of a do for the christmas.
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...and (unfortunately) breaking the licensing law in the process - were the drinkers paying full price for the drink? Hardly a 'christmas do' if they were - sounds more like a greedy publican.
 
Wow, it's a bit crowded up on the high moral ground, are we to asume that all these people would get up and walk out of a pub half way through a drink when the clock goes past closing and drinking up time? To say the guy deserves it for serving up a few drinks after closing is not cool in my book.
 


+1. To say that someone deserves a physical attack just because they were also breaking the law by serving after hours is not a very nice thing to say! Would you say that a prostitute who got raped and beaten also deserved it because she was 'working' at the time? I wouldn't have thought so, at least I hope no one would think so. Two wrongs do not make a right. The OP was looking for legal advice if my understanding is correct, not the morals and ethics behind it.

IMHO, the local who attacked her brother should be reported regardless of the circumstances, he shouldn't be allowed to get away with such brutish behaviour.
 
I don't drink much in pubs (much prefer the odd glass of wine with food to pints at the bar). But I don't get very upset by breaches of the licensing law. Yes, it's against the law, and the publican and the "found-ons" can take their chances on being caught and charged -- it's the rules of the game. But as long as the punters don't drive home over the limit, I think it's no big deal, and my moral sense is not going to be outraged.

Assault, however, is a much bigger deal in my book.
 

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just a local got a bit to drunk and took it out on the bar owner
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Interesting to note that the publican served the alcohol that caused the inebriation that caused the violence.
 
Your brother could take a civil action against the perpetrator but usually it is better if criminal charges are brought first ( successfully), then the civil claim is pretty much open and shut. Assuming the individual is a mark.

I have sympathy for publicans as regards after hours- as illegality goes its a pretty tame charge. That is if one accepts that each individual is responsible for their own actions and we do not blame the publican for TPs getting drunk to the point of being violent or incapable etc. Publicans are under pressure to have afterhours from regulars who will defect otherwise.
 

What's the situation with insurance (e.g. public liability insurance or a claim to cover damage caused to the pub by a punter) in a case of out of hours drinking - would the insurer pay up?
 
I think it's illegal to serve alcohol to someone who is drunk - whatever the definition of "drunk" is.
 
europhile said:
I think it's illegal to serve alcohol to someone who is drunk - whatever the definition of "drunk" is.
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I guess if someone is coherent enough to order a drink, or one of his mates can order him/her a drink, he/she is not drunk?
 
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