these people are the very ones whose "incentive-based compensation" has fed into the unscrupulous lending that caused the mess we're in at the moment.
Disgraceful decision. I presume Mr Cowan and friends will now explain why Mr Fingleton wasn't made hand over his bonus and pension pot when forced out of irish nationwide.
There has been NO suggestion anywhere that the people in the capital markets division (for the avoidance of doubt onq, that would be the investment division, not the lending division) are in any way incompetent. In fact, throughout this whole debacle it has been repeatedly pointed out that the capital markets division (for the avoidance of doubt onq, that would be the investment division, not the lending division) was pretty much the only bright spot in AIB’s performance – without them, AIB would be even further in the manure business.Companies that can afford to pay incompetent people bonuses like this ....
these guys were paid €58.65 million between 2,869 of them or over €20,442 each - in BONUSES!!!
That's more than a man with a small family on the dole will get from the state - that amount is greater than his entire income for a year.
In Foy's case and those like him, not content with the €70-80K BASIC they are on, they get up to €160K in bonus payments.
Your post shows a huge amount of begrudgery that someone could possibly earn this kind of money. People do earn this kind of money all over the world and as long as they deliver for their employers, they will continue to earn this kind of money. I would prefer to pay a trader 250K and have him make 10M for the company – than a trader at 75K who loses the company 2M. Do you understand that you get what you pay for and you pay for what you get? That’s the whole point of low basic, high bonus structures – reward the people who deliver – do you have an issue with that concept?That's a quarter of a million Euro a year
Do you mean Mr Lenihan effectively overruling a high court decision is disgraceful?
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They all think they're untouchable.
ONQ.
Your post shows a huge amount of begrudgery that someone could possibly earn this kind of money. People do earn this kind of money all over the world and as long as they deliver for their employers, they will continue to earn this kind of money.
Aren't the fantastic traders in the investment division of AIB the same as those traders in the German, French and UK banks who have had to be bailed out by the EU/IMF propping up Ireland in order to transfer money to the Irish banks to save the EU banks whose traders invested in Irish banks?
Traders are just gamblers, they do not do a fantastic job, quite the opposite. They also can never lose as they know no matter how high the gamble the politicians will not let the banks fail. No talent whatsoever is required for that.
No they are nothing like that. These guys are not mad exotic traders. Banks had one main weakness. Property. It wasn't capital markets activities.
But didn't the capital markets of the foreign banks 'invest' in Irish banks who then invested (loaned) in property? Sorry if my question seems too simple. Banks are very complicated structures.
Cannot follow the legal turns in this matter.
Interesting article by Fintan O'Toole in today's IT which suggests that the whole bonus deal was no more than senior execs 'looting' the bank before it was effectively nationalised.
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Interesting article by Fintan O'Toole in today's IT which suggests that the whole bonus deal was no more than senior execs 'looting' the bank before it was effectively nationalised.
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