to simply sever a plate of food in front of someone does not require or deserve a tip. its a process like flying on a plane, or buying a newspaper in a shop or a bus trip. If you have special requests / are given extra help in sorting your meal, having wine/water poured for you just at the right time, are having your kids meal that you brought in with you heated up, are being given great recommendations on dishes / wines that you woulkd have missed otherwise, then it stops being just a process (like a KP simply processes dirty pots etc). At this point the person deserves a tip, they have gone beyonf the process.
How can you state that service charge is not at the discretion of the customer. One goes to a restaurant for food, not to give tips. I always used to give a tip and in the last fortnight I have stopped. Unless the service is exemplary they can get stuffed. Too many stories of the staff not getting the service charge so I have no hard feelings. If good, leave them cash otherwise and things might improve. Nobody is ever thanked for a tip so they just might remember you next time you go in for leaving nothing. The way things are restaurants should be happy with your custom.
that does not sound right to me. it is a % charge for service on the bill amount, i dont know how that can be discretionary.by law, even if this is written on the door / menu or anywhere else, you can ask for service charge to be removed at any stage. it is suggestive, not compulsory. that is a fact of law and your right. use it.
to simply sever a plate of food in front of someone does not require or deserve a tip. its a process like flying on a plane, or buying a newspaper in a shop or a bus trip. If you have special requests / are given extra help in sorting your meal, having wine/water poured for you just at the right time, are having your kids meal that you brought in with you heated up, are being given great recommendations on dishes / wines that you woulkd have missed otherwise, then it stops being just a process (like a KP simply processes dirty pots etc). At this point the person deserves a tip, they have gone beyonf the process.
that does not sound right to me. it is a % charge for service on the bill amount, i dont know how that can be discretionary.
I found a huge hair on my main course.
They apologised.
I was served my main course when everybody else was long finished and getting their desert and I did not enjoy it and felt I had to wolf it down to "catch up". I ended up leaving half it
Does that mean they took the meal away, you agreed they would cook it again, and they did?
Does that mean they took the meal away, you agreed they would cook it again, and they did?
I'm afraid to ask, but what is 'cottage cheese treatment'?
Exactly what you are thinking. I have heard horror stories of extra 'added' ingredients.
And before this whole thing gets stuffed down my throat, it happens and let no one tell me not here or there or this or that.
If you knew what happens in kitchens you would never eat out again.
You have reliably informed that in law it is your right to have a service charge removed. I just said that it did not sound right to me. If the menu states that there is a service charge applied of x% to the bill, then it sounds to me like some sort of legal contract. Are you a solicitor/barrister? Are you sure about this?"I am not happy with the service because of x,y,z, please remove the service charge"
does that sound more discretionary for you? Its your right to have it removed.
You have reliably informed that in law it is your right to have a service charge removed. I just said that it did not sound right to me. If the menu states that there is a service charge applied of x% to the bill, then it sounds to me like some sort of legal contract. Are you a solicitor/barrister? Are you sure about this?
My complaint is about how it was handled. Being whisked into the kitchen to scold a team of chefs was downright weird. Places that charge at that level should know how to deal with situations like this.
For a Michelin Starred Restaurant, it was a major mistake. Not good enough to say next time it will be better.
Tipping is discretionary. A service charge is not a tip.Tipping should be discretionary. If the service is bad I don't tip or I will leave a 1 cent coin as a protest. I would certainly not want to patronise an establishment that adds on what they consider to be an appropriate tip regardless.
Vote with your feet.
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