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Stunned by just how bad Ireland were last Friday night against the All Blacks. Nothing seemed to work and Plan B was worse than Plan A.

We gifted them score after score with penalties, we dropped balls, and we lost lineouts, although some of the scrum penalties against us were very bad calls by the ref.

Where to from here? Training ground, basics, nail in the new, temporary laws.

Very disappointed for them.
 
mathepac said:
Stunned by just how bad Ireland were last Friday night against the All Blacks. Nothing seemed to work and Plan B was worse than Plan A.

We gifted them score after score with penalties, we dropped balls, and we lost lineouts, although some of the scrum penalties against us were very bad calls by the ref.

Where to from here? Training ground, basics, nail in the new, temporary laws.

Very disappointed for them.
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Hopefully just a one off ....which they are entitled to.....and will bounce back for the next test.....
 
Yes, very underwhelming performance. The Lineout was a disgrace and the Scrum wasn't much better. If a team doesn't have a set-piece platform to attack off they will always struggle to win a game.

I'm a big Ciaran Frawley fan but I was disappointed with his performance.
 
An absolute shambles of a performance. None of those players should ever play rugby again, let alone for the national team. I think we need to clear out the whole management team immediately. Root and branch overhaul starting with the cancellation of the provincial set up. I think the minister for sport should authorise a tribunal of enquiry and each and every rugby club should provide pop-up councelling centres for fans suffering as a result of this game. We should cancel the forthcoming Autumn matches and pull out of the 6 Nations. The Irish team was obviously much better with a Munster pack too so I'd make sure those pretty-boys from Leinster could never wear a shirt with a single digit again.
 
Firefly said:
An absolute shambles of a performance. None of those players should ever play rugby again, let alone for the national team. I think we need to clear out the whole management team immediately. Root and branch overhaul starting with the cancellation of the provincial set up. I think the minister for sport should authorise a tribunal of enquiry and each and every rugby club should provide pop-up councelling centres for fans suffering as a result of this game. We should cancel the forthcoming Autumn matches and pull out of the 6 Nations. The Irish team was obviously much better with a Munster pack too so I'd make sure those pretty-boys from Leinster could never wear a shirt with a single digit again.
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I hope you are not applying for the management job.
After all they only lost to the All Blacks...
How about giving them a chance to prove themselves..
 
joer said:
I hope you are not applying for the management job.
After all they only lost to the All Blacks...
How about giving them a chance to prove themselves..
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I think the post was tongue in cheek.
 
But they look good in the match-day programme photos, which has to count for something. I mean we have to attract the fan-base for the pretties. I'm from Leinster myself, morketing don'cha know, so I know what that means.
 
Firefly said:
An absolute shambles of a performance. None of those players should ever play rugby again, let alone for the national team. I think we need to clear out the whole management team immediately. Root and branch overhaul starting with the cancellation of the provincial set up. I think the minister for sport should authorise a tribunal of enquiry and each and every rugby club should provide pop-up councelling centres for fans suffering as a result of this game. We should cancel the forthcoming Autumn matches and pull out of the 6 Nations. The Irish team was obviously much better with a Munster pack too so I'd make sure those pretty-boys from Leinster could never wear a shirt with a single digit again.
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Needless to say I’m in total agreement !!!!
 
I enjoyed the Ireland V New Zealand match. We didn’t win; somebody has to lose. It is sport, well, paid sport and I have no quibble about the defeat. New Zealand deserved the win and some aspects of the Irish performance were good. If you want to support a winning team every week, then support a top team in Wonens Australian Rules or something or better again Cork Camogie.
 
My expectations of the match were based on the Irish team's World Rankings before the match and the rankings and performances of the Provincial sides in URC and European competitions, etc, etc. I don't enjoy a losing performance by any team I support at anything - Ireland Rugby, Liverpool FC, my grandaughter's camogie or cheer-leaders' teams, Dublin footballers, Tipp hurlers, etc. I have no interest in WAR or CC, sport fishing, marbles, tossing horse shoes, pool or indeed any other minority sports.

I like my teams to win and when they hand victory to their opposition as Ireland did against NZ I don't enjoy it. It makes me concerned for them in the rest of the Autumn Series of matches against the visitors.
 
Overpriced tickets, no atmosphere, half the fans more interested in beer then the match, Friday night in Dublin so a lot of country fans didn't travel. IRFU are going to blow the success big time if they are not careful. we've stopped going due to cost and the fact that the Aviva is not safe for families any more.
 
Peanuts20 said:
Overpriced tickets, no atmosphere, half the fans more interested in beer then the match, Friday night in Dublin so a lot of country fans didn't travel.
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Sure most of the country fans already live in Dublin!
I do agree that the atmosphere is a problem. That's been the case, in my experience, at provincial matches over the last few years as well. I've been to a good many Leinster-Munster games over the years and, despite Munster being more competitive recently, the atmosphere at matches in both Dublin and Limerick, is nowhere near what it was 20 years ago.

Peanuts20 said:
IRFU are going to blow the success big time if they are not careful. we've stopped going due to cost and the fact that the Aviva is not safe for families any more.
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Really?
 
Peanuts20 said:
Overpriced tickets, no atmosphere, half the fans more interested in beer then the match, Friday night in Dublin so a lot of country fans didn't travel. IRFU are going to blow the success big time if they are not careful. we've stopped going due to cost and the fact that the Aviva is not safe for families any more.
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Croker.
 
Purple said:
Sure most of the country fans already live in Dublin!
I do agree that the atmosphere is a problem. That's been the case, in my experience, at provincial matches over the last few years as well. I've been to a good many Leinster-Munster games over the years and, despite Munster being more competitive recently, the atmosphere at matches in both Dublin and Limerick, is nowhere near what it was 20 years ago.


Really?
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Yes, really.

I am fed up of my kids sploshing around in puddles of beer and having it spilt on them and I nearly got my head kicked in at a match last year after I asked some drunken yahoo in a peaky blinders outfit to sit down so we could see the match. (he was the only one standing at the time). He went for me only for his mates to pull him away and march him out. Stewards did nothing except watch. Guy was legless .

Football matches have way better atmosphere and are much safer because they don't allow drink in the stands.
 
Peanuts20 said:
Yes, really.

I am fed up of my kids sploshing around in puddles of beer and having it spilt on them and I nearly got my head kicked in at a match last year after I asked some drunken yahoo in a peaky blinders outfit to sit down so we could see the match. (he was the only one standing at the time). He went for me only for his mates to pull him away and march him out. Stewards did nothing except watch. Guy was legless .
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That was unfortunate and unpleasant but hardly enough to draw the conclusion that the Aviva is not safe for families.

Peanuts20 said:
Football matches have way better atmosphere and are much safer because they don't allow drink in the stands.
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Well the fans have to make their own entertainment at soccer matches because the games are so boring.
 
mathepac said:
Croker.
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The only time I've seen a fight in a stand at any game was at Croker. It was started by a Tyrone football fan who wouldn't sit down and was encouraged to do so by the people behind him. There were a few punches and a bit of blood but the Stewards and Gardaí were there quickly and removed him.
 
Purple said:
That was unfortunate and unpleasant but hardly enough to draw the conclusion that the Aviva is not safe for families.
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I've attended matches everywhere from Twickenham to New York, all kinds of sports. I've even been to Milwall and Leeds in the past. I've been to Toronto and seen fights in the stands when they play Montreal in ice hockey. I've been to the North London derby. The only stadium that makes me nervous these days going into is the Aviva for rugby due to the sheer amount of drink that is being consumed there . Why on earth would anyone take their kids into an environment where more and more people around you are getting steadily drunker as the afternoon or evening goes on and where the stewarding is so ineffective.?

I'm not a prude, I've drank beer in Arsenal, Brentford, QPR, Thomand Park and the RDS in the last 12 months but nothing compares to the Aviva for a Rugby International. If the stadium ever had to be evacuated, I dread to think what it would be like
 
After the defeat against the All Blacks
Any win is good and this evening it was all about the win. Well done lads.
 
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