People would still work out price per litre and in future would ensire they filled up at tesco etc for week. Even if people did buy because of this the margins would still be too small for the place to be economically viable without selling other things like food drink etc.But theres plenty of land available in country regions so i dont know how it can be that uneconomically viable,its more likely tesco etc are attracting people and smaller retailers are attracted by the development potential of their sites.MOB said:There is a problem with petrol sales: unless you do huge volumes, the margins are just too thin. This is leading to the wholesale closure of rural petrol stations. In the long run, this will be detrimental to country life. It occurs to me that rural stations have another option, as follows:
1. They could drop their price per litre to being practically at cost;
2. They could charge a flat fee "service charge" of, say, €2 or €3 on every petrol sale - you could simply set the pump to start at €2 instead of zero.
Petrol would still, obviously, be dearer overall in rural petrol stations, but the rural customer - instead of having an incentive to just buy five litres of petrol to get into the Tesco station in town - would now have an incentive to fill up, so as to minimise the per-litre cost.
I don't see any other way for rural petrol stations to remain economically viable; frankly, I am surprised this hasn't already been tried.
Grizzly said:Having purchased petrol in the Tesco station in Dundrum I have to say that it is the most difficult petrol station to access. A roundabout in front, then a drive through a car park negotiating bollards and ramps as you go and finally ending up down a hill before trying to negotiate your way back out on to a roundabout.
For those of you who live in apartments can I ask the following question. When you do your shopping and arrive back at your apartment, how far do you have to walk from your car space to your front door and did you have to pay for your car space? Can you bring your shopping in one trip from your car to your apartment or does this car require multiple trips? Do you find yourself purchasing smaller lots of groceries as a result and as a result of purchasing smaller lots do you end up buying in the more expensive convenience stores?
Grizzly said:I see that a number of petrol stations, small businesses, pubs, hotels, private houses etc are being sold off and the land used for apartment developments. Just look at the Sandyford Industrial estate for example. Will we be able to buy petrol, bread etc locally without having to travel to the out of town Mall in the future?
Would you turn down a pay rise if it was offered?lff12 said:True, back where I'm from in Swords a bunglalow with a big garden is being replace by not 1, but 36 new units! Its pure, unadulterated, naked greed -
A good question. Can you answer it?lff12 said:why build one house and sell for 800k when you can build 30 apartments and sell for 250k each
lff12 said:True, back where I'm from in Swords a bunglalow with a big garden is being replace by not 1, but 36 new units! Its pure, unadulterated, naked greed - why build one house and sell for 800k when you can build 30 apartments and sell for 250k each! Even taking into account building and sales costs the profits per unit still give the developer a return of 3-4 times what they get from building larger units.
lff12 said:True, back where I'm from in Swords a bunglalow with a big garden is being replace by not 1, but 36 new units! Its pure, unadulterated, naked greed - why build one house and sell for 800k when you can build 30 apartments and sell for 250k each! Even taking into account building and sales costs the profits per unit still give the developer a return of 3-4 times what they get from building larger units.
Plus they can come back and try to redevelop any unused land at a later stage. This is because a lot of apartments are mainly bought by investors, and they don't generally give a fig about what happens in the vicinity as long as they get their pound of flesh!
Superman said:Planners in Dublin are beginning to enforce higher standards. They can (and do) force 2 1 bed apartments to be turned into a three bed. They sometimes require that a certain percentage be X% larger than the minimum etc. and requiring particular ratios of 1 to 2 to 3 bed units.
Especially in areas that are not designated for "rental" but where the Planning objectives are for long term owner occupiers.
Calina said:I'm of the opinion that the planners in the Fingal CC area have been guilty of a slight lack of joined up thinking, particularly with respect to the area beyond Applewood in Swords. The place looks like a child with a bundle of bricks was involved in modelling the apartment blocks that went in on the banks of the river down there.
lff12 said:Even the notorious Trellis Tower in West London is more attractive than some of what is being built in Ireland now!
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