An unlikely place to invest....the capital city of Mongolia.....

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According to Asia weekly, a business week style magazine, the capital city of Mongolia is a serious hotspot right now. Appreciation is rising "exponentially" and rental yields are also extremely attractive. Apparently in the capital development land is very scarce and thus is driving up the prices.
 
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Ginetta Vedrickas did an editorial piece on the site for us some time ago on Mongolia, might be worth a read if you're into long distance investments and looking for some info on Mongolia. You'll find it [broken link removed].
 
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I was only referring to tent prices in my original post. Historical data points to increases in tent appreciation after civil disorder
 
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Indeed, one should never consider investing in a country that experiences unrest, there's an example of another that should be avoided like the plague here.
 
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And of course there's this hellhole.
 
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And of course there's this hellhole.

You not selling Mongolian on your website by any chance? How is business out of interest? You seeing a lot less people willing to buy overseas?

I got an email from a firm selling a Mongolian property recently. 1 bed's at 96m2 and the price was something like 100,000euro. Bit of a joke really.
 
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Ginetta Vedrickas did an editorial piece on the site for us some time ago on Mongolia, might be worth a read if you're into long distance investments and looking for some info on Mongolia. You'll find it [broken link removed].

I am astounded. I can't help thinking that this is a new low for property porn. Are you promoting Zimbabwe by any chance?
 
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I think you're missing the whole point here. The article on Mongolia is meant to be informative, if someone is looking at more risky investments (and the Irish have been considering some pretty hairy ones of late) then it may inform you somewhat of what to expect in the Mongolian market.

There aren't any Mongolian properties on the site as far as I'm aware, but that is not to say that there won't be at some stage. If someone wishes to put them up there they will be more than welcome.

The objective of the site, in so far as is possible, is to inform and educate those looking at buying overseas. Whether they actually buy anything or not is irrelevant to us, but is obviously relevant to those with property on our site.

Just because people want to read about property in Mongolia, Albania, Brazil, Egypt, or wherever, doesn't necessarily mean they're going to buy anything there. People just like to know the attractions and risks associated with different markets. I would imagine that 90% of those who read about overseas property in the newspapers or online don't every actually buy anything abroad. It is a sort of property voyeurism. There's nothing wrong with it, everyone to their own.

Business in the overseas property industry is remarkably quiet at the moment, similar to the home market. The two go hand in hand. If people aren't buying in Ireland they're not buying anywhere else either. This is unlikely to change until banks start to lend at realistic rates again and the gloom that is currently over the country lifts somewhat. I wouldn't expect this to happen any time soon.
 
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The objective of the site, in so far as is possible, is to inform and educate those looking at buying overseas. Whether they actually buy anything or not is irrelevant to us, but is obviously relevant to those with property on our site.

Yes, but is it really realistic to expect property page advertorials to "inform and educate"?

For example, the article on your site boasts of Mongolia's "joys of the free market" and "economic renaissance".

As for the former, the world corruption index places Mongolia at no. 99, behind such luminaries as Algeria, Armenia, Belize, Dominican Republic & Lebanon and ahead of Albania, Argentina, Bolivia, Burkina Faso, Djibouti & Egypt

As for the latter, the CIA world factbook paints a more jaundiced picture.

The worst thing is, there are obviously people out there who take any sort of guff at face value.
 
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Mongolia is so much tied into the whole explosion within the commodity markets. Within this bull that is likely to last no more than five years, any such investment would be both dangerous and foolhardy. The Bull Run within precious metals began in 1998 and it lasts typically only about fifteen years. But a shortage of land is an understatement. Ulaanbaatar is surrounded by 1000's of miles of wilderness and mountains, so this unfortunately couldn't be further from the truth.

Property Frontiers touted this to me about 24 months ago and was thrown straight in the circular cabinet. When ex-pat managers leave in 5 years or less, who's there to buy these properties? Nobody. Well not those in the huts anyway that comprises the majority of the population. Salaries of $2000 average or 130th of 148th countries speaks volumes.

The worst thing is, there are obviously people out there who take any sort of guff at face value.
As the saying goes "there's a fool born everyday" despite information telling them from all angles to the contrary. With the credit crunch the OPI appetite must be fairly dead. Its money came from credit and this tap is now switched off. So although there are people who have the desire to buy, they no longer have the means to buy.
 
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The article I read pointed out this vast land of wilderness and mountains, it said that in the central area of the city there was a scarcity of land, Ill try and find link to it... we are not talking about an advertorial

I posted the original thread as a point of interest, because it is places like that perhaps you can make a killing if you get in and out quickly, despite the civil unrest and various other factors you can choose from.

This countries neighbours have had massive massive gains in real estate over thel last few years. I just came back from a trip to Shanghai dealing with a number of commercial companies who wont deal with real estate unless they think their clients will make 50% selling 6 months bottom line. That is what they expect. Its a different world, and political problems unrest, social problems, poverty etc often does not effect the real estate market in the slightest.
 
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My business deals a lot with China and Shanghai in particular. You will find the rules on property for foreign ownership have changed. Not a place to invest IMO as it's freehold rented by the State in most cases. A state about as trustworthy to foreigners as Mugababe.

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Even if you buy property and use loopholes, the rules are constantly changing between central government and local government
 
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Yes I did look into china before and this was what put me off, a very unsecure investment unless you were going in and out fast. Recently they put a lot more restrictions of foreigners owning property also, putting up capital gains etc. not sure what the laws in mongolia are exactly