I know someone who turned up for an interview with Google in jeans because he read about their 'relaxed' attitude. The feedback from google was not good.
In the same way that Google has no dress code and to some extent frown upon business attire, if I went for a job there and hadn't done any work to prepare myself for what Google expects, then that's my problem.
So if I landed in Ireland today from France or Estonia, where would I find information about the dress code of any SME?Complete other way round for me, if people can't take the time to research me as a potential employer and make simple queries or investigations as to who I am, what I do and any cultural aspects, then that's a bad mark in my book.
Seriously - no, that's not what I said. Go back and read the post.That has to be be the most condescending post I have read in a very long time. Disabled people and foreigners don't know that they should make an effort to look presentable when entering a potential employers workplace? Seriously?
So if I landed in Ireland today from France or Estonia, where would I find information about the dress code of any SME?
What you call 'lack of cop on' could also be described as 'knowing how we do things round here'. There are lots of reasons why someone might not be familiar with traditions or conventions in particular workplaces. This could happen with people who just haven't worked before, or people with disabilities who find it difficult to find work, or people from other countries who might have different traditions and convention.
Seriously - no, that's not what I said. Go back and read the post.
I see this issue has been raised again regarding the dress code (or lack of) in The Dail.
I fully agree that there should be a policy of at least "neat dress". It shows respect for your coleagues and employers- the public.
It was discussed on Newstalk this morning and Chris Donoghue tried to put forward the argument that it is one's actions that are important, and not the way you dress. This to me is a ridiculous argument, as they are not exclusive. One can dress well AND do or say the right thing.
It was then pointed out ti Chris that he was wearing a suit for a radio programme, and he had no answer, just some bluster about "It's what I'm comfortable with".
A person in wheelchair who turns up in a celtic jersey would not get a job with me. That's equality for you. (Or any football jersey just in case I get accused of anti-celtic bias)
So why wouldn't employers avoid the need for people to email the contact and just publish this information as part of the job spec for the world to see? Why all this messing around and expecting people to 'read between the lines'?If you're taking the leap of emigrating from France or Estonia and you can't find the time or haven't the aptitude to make a few enquiries into your potential employer, even down to emailing the contact there at the very least, then it speaks volumes.
Depends where the job is. I recall seeing an online discussion with hip people sneering and laughing at the bloke who turned up for an interview in the new Abercrombie store in Dundrum in a suit - the ultimate faux-pas in that sector it seems.It's not unreasonable to have an assumption that "business attire" is the norm where no information can be found.
That's not what I said - go back and read the post.I must say, neither does it represent a poster, who would view equality as a fundamental provision, in a good light to give the impression that foreign nationals and disabled people are incapable of making judgements on business norms, incapable of making enquiries on business norms, or unable to present themselves in a position, professional manner without being mollycoddled by their furture employer.
So if I landed in Ireland today from France or Estonia, where would I find information about the dress code of any SME?
Are you saying that people are told they're coming in for an aptitude test but, if the supervisors don't like their dress, they will mark them down or call a less able candidate for interview??
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I interviewed another lot for the post nurse attendant and one lad came in a nice suit (very few wore a suit). He got the job and when he came to work in his short sleeve tunic uniform, both his arms were covered in tattoos. The older patients were a bit frightened of him at first I heard and I got a bit of stick from the Sister who wanted to let him go immediately but again there was / is no criteria stating the tattoos are a no no.
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Entitled in law, or what?You are perfectly entitled to ask that tattoos be covered up.
Entitled in law, or what?
There is nothing in law that says you can't as long as you don't discriminate. Just as you are allowed to ask an employee to cut their hair, wear less make up, wear different clothes, have a wash etc etc etc.
I know you like links.
http://www.tribune.ie/business/arti...ment-law-oisin-scollard-is-it-prudent-to-tel/
I read the article in your link. Seems to be more of an opinion piece that anything based in fact.
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read it... again, nothing it there that says I cant get my arms tattoo'd and wear a short sleeved shirt to my place of work.
read it... again, nothing it there that says I cant get my arms tattoo'd and wear a short sleeved shirt to my place of work.
Yes because there is a specific piece of legislation that says this is not allowed.Do you really believe that the law is written in that way? Employers can impose a dress code on employees as long as it doesn't discriminate and that includes asking people to cover up tattoos or not wearing flip flops to work (there isn't an actual law outlawing specifically that either in case you were wondering). You may not agree with it but that is the way it is.
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