The issue is are this long term deposits really competitive at all given instant access are at similar rates
Would such a large amount of interest still only be subject to DIRT or might it become assessable for income tax/PRSI/USC?No access during the 2 years.
Approx - 200000*0.0302*2*(1-.33) = about 8k post tax.
Would such a large amount of interest still only be subject to DIRT or might it become assessable for income tax/PRSI/USC?
Thanks @Lightning - I just wasn't sure if deposit interest over a certain amount (e.g. €5K) maybe became categorised as income and assessed as such. Does over €5K of deposit interest cause one to become self-assessed? I presume not.USC - No liability.
Income tax - No liability.
PRSI - you are subject to PRSI if your unearned income exceeds €5,000 in a calendar year. AIB pay interest annually with a 2 year term deposit. The interest is approx 4k per year post DIRT but over 5k gross - so you would be subject to PRSI.
Yeah, so good point, that correct post tax formula is probably: 200000*0.0302*2*(1-.37)
Thanks @Lightning - I just wasn't sure if deposit interest over a certain amount (e.g. €5K) maybe became categorised as income and assessed as such. Does over €5K of deposit interest cause one to become self-assessed? I presume not.
Faced the same dilemma some weeks back and opted for the AIB 6% over 2 years, rather than 5 year savings certs at 9% over 5 years. Remember when comparing the two that the AIB rate is liable to DIRT, whereas the return on Savings Certs is not.This looks like an interesting rate . I`m a few months into a 5 year State Savings bond , which will yield 9% at maturity. Seems a long way off now and it might be better cash that in and invest with AIB .. although of course the bank rates may bottom out and SS could be the ultimate better option ... swings & roundabouts !
I always thought that people over 70 do not pay PRSI. Wouldn't this also apply, even in the above scenario, with a person over 70 year.?
Up to 31 December 2023, if you are aged 66 or over, you are not liable to pay PRSI.
From 1 January 2024, you will be able to draw down your State Pension (Contributory) between age 66 and 70. You will continue to be liable for PRSI until you:
- are awarded the State Pension (Contributory)
- or
- reach age 70.
Are you restricting yourself to deposits only and dismissing all other possible investment options?As an aside, if you had €200,000 to invest for the next 2 years, would you choose this AIB option or is there a better option out there at the moment?
For a 2 year term, I would choose AIB.
In terms of similar products - BoI pay 2.98% for 1 year 6 months with 25% access during the term.
Thank you for your help Lightning.
As an aside, if you had €200,000 to invest for the next 2 years, would you choose this AIB option or is there a better option out there at the moment?
Is there anything that gives you access to the money but a similar ROI?
Worth noting that it’s €100,000 per individual (per institution), so in the case of a joint account it can go to €200,000 in which case €100,000 will allocated to each of the account holders and covered in the event of a call on the DGS.I certainly would not have over €100k deposited in any institution.
Very difficult to see this rate lasting much longer……..
Change to Minimum Balance from 5 February 2025
From 5 February 2025, you will be able to open a Personal Fixed Term Deposit account with a minimum balance of €5,000. We made this change based on customer feedback. For in-branch account opening and maturity instructions, this reduction to €5,000 will be available from 5 February 2025. The new minimum balance will also be available on the mobile app in the following weeks.
What does this mean for you:
I want to open a Personal Fixed Term Deposit with a balance between €5,000 and €15,000:
Until 5 February 2025, the minimum balance for the accounts will be €15,000. From 5 February 2025, you can open a new Personal Fixed Term Deposit in branch with a minimum balance of €5,000. In the following weeks, customers will be able to open new Personal Fixed Term Deposits on the mobile app with a minimum balance of €5,000.
I have a Personal Fixed Term Deposit Maturing before 5 February 2025, can I reinvest at maturity with just €5,000?
Until 5 February 2025, the minimum balance for the accounts will be €15,000. From 5 February 2025, you can reinvest with a balance from €5,000 in branch and in the following weeks through the mobile app.
If your maturity is before 5 February 2025 you can choose to close your account at maturity. When the threshold is changed you can then open a new account in branch or on the mobile app. Please be aware that you may not be earning interest on your money in the intervening period and that deposit interest rates are subject to change.
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