NotMyRealName
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Why do you say lounge passes are not much use? Free food, drinks and a relaxing spot to wait in away from the masses before flight departure - what's not to like!We have 2 of these cards. Pay everything ,including 2 X college fees,with them and clear bill at months end. No problem racking up the 5k each in no time. So we end up with 2 sets of 2 x free flights, minus taxes, and fees etc.[ typically 10 to 50 euro for 2 return flights. We've been to Madrid, Lisbon, and Rome. Currently sizing up this years destinations. Lounge passes are not much use , so sometimes I gift them to friends/family. Fast track has been useful on busy Dub airport days. You can also gift the flights if you can't use them in the allotted time frame. It helps a lot if your travel destinations and timeframes are VERY flexible to plan. The application process for the free flights is convoluted and slow. There are a lot of black-out days, so just because there's a flight scheduled that day, doesn't mean you'll be allowed to use it. Avios are an additional benefit but you won't be booking any longhaul flights with the meagre benefits. We use them up on any flight we can , giving a small financial discount depending on how many avios you have. This has been in the 10 to 35 euro neighbourhood for us......better than nothing. I've previous experience of a frequent flyer benefit program getting discontinued and my points going to 0, so I don't try to accumulate in vain. Haven't had occasion to claim on the travel insurance.....and hope that always remains the case.
All in all it has worked well for us so far.
Why do you say lounge passes are not much use? Free food, drinks and a relaxing spot to wait in away from the masses before flight departure - what's not to like!
The monthly fee hasn't gone- its still 6.50 a month along with the stamp duty. So the question is whether 40k Avios and a travel insurance policy is worth 78 quid a year. I'm not as informed on frequent flyer stuff as I used to be, but even pre covid there was consistent complaining on the likes of flyertalk forums that the 'cost' of flights and upgrades using airmiles was always rising, and airlines were constantly devaluing their frequent flyer 'currency'.If the monthly fee has gone, would the 40,000 points and the free travel insurance not be worth the 30 stamp duty and channelling 10k through it a year? I'm not sure what 40k avois gets you but surely a chunk off of a flight. I don't have this card but might consider it if there is no monthly charge. I understand it is probably not as beneficial as the old terms.
Oh wow, I misread and thought that the monthly fee had gone. Definitely a big drop in attractiveness to swap free flights for a points value that isn't set in stone.The monthly fee hasn't gone- its still 6.50 a month along with the stamp duty. So the question is whether 40k Avios and a travel insurance policy is worth 78 quid a year. I'm not as informed on frequent flyer stuff as I used to be, but even pre covid there was consistent complaining on the likes of flyertalk forums that the 'cost' of flights and upgrades using airmiles was always rising, and airlines were constantly devaluing their frequent flyer 'currency'.
The link I posted says that you can get 2 flights to Lanzarote or 1 to New York for 40k Avios (note: plus fees and charges). That might be true in theory, but the cynic in me says that the experience would be different if you tried to book it...
The travel policy itself isnt bad, at a cursory glance. I havent done a full comparison against a vhi or blue insurance or other policy though.
I was seeing this as potentially a better deal than 2 free flights but perhaps a spend of 10,000 is a little high to get the Avios points. Aer Lingus recently revamped their Avios booking system, they put it into their core website. Not sure if the supply of Avios flights would cater to the demand though. People were complaining that they were being refused for the free flights each time they requested through the email address for the credit card so getting rid of that and rolling the offer into Avios is a positive. I was thinking of going back to the basic card but not sure now. 40,000 Avios would be 5 return flights to Paris/London/Amsterdam off-peak (although huge tax out of Amsterdam) or 2 return flights to Athens etc further destinations on-peak. https://www.aerlingus.com/media/pdfs/EI_routes_avios_amounts.pdfOh wow, I misread and thought that the monthly fee had gone. Definitely a big drop in attractiveness to swap free flights for a points value that isn't set in stone.
Yeah and you could build up the Avios points for a business class transatlantic if you're so inclined.Think this is great, enhanced flexibility on flights booked with 40k Avios in your pocket & ability to book any dates.
Lounge access, priority boarding and fast track nice to have but only real use them for business , so no benefit when bringing family along. Lounge access very nice to have when travelling for business , but other ways of getting lounge access at reasonable rates if travelling a lot
I also see ,on the bottom of the new terms and conditions, that a 5,000 avios bonus will be issued to existing customers in Jan 2025 for their loyalty.Saw today that new T&Cs coming into effect for this card in October- no more free flights, lounge passes or priority boarding; instead you get the worldwide travel insurance and, if you spend more than 10k euro a year, 40,000 Avios. No mention of the 6.50 euro a month fee changing.
Doesn't seem like a great deal to me, particularly as the 'cost' of flights using Avios continues to go up, plus taxes still have to be paid.
Im most annoyed by the removal of lounge and fast pass. It worked really well for me, I have a silver card anyway but when travelling with my wife she could get into lounge and through fast lane with me and it was a genuinely nice perk that cost them very little.I knew a change was inevitable but that is ridiculous. Making you spend double to get the same flight benefits (assuming avios points to get a flight wont got up, which they will). We get completely screwed with rewards in this country.
Any possible avenue to screw over the consumer.
TBH they probably looked at the stats of lounge usage by Aer Credit Card holders and decided it was higher than they expected/budgeted for, hence its removal.Im most annoyed by the removal of lounge and fast pass. It worked really well for me, I have a silver card anyway but when travelling with my wife she could get into lounge and through fast lane with me and it was a genuinely nice perk that cost them very little.
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