thanks for all that, i'll print it down and discuss with him.. i have had issues with credit in the past but thankfully per the icb credit report i requested all is fine now. however i would like to see if i could qualify for the funds 1st before we start approaching his people. in this instance would it be wise for me to speak to a mortgage advisor in relation to a mortage application,(i'm just slightly nervous that i won't get it). His mortgage is with PTSB. Would i have to go with them also ie in a joint mortgage? Sorry about all the questions, i'm clueless and need to gather as much info as possible?