With all the talk that 3rd level fee's might be coming back,I really think that only students whose parent's decided to send them to 2nd level fee paying school's should have to pay 3rd level.
If they had no issue to pay for 2nd level which they could have got for free then they can't really give out about paying for 3rd level.
In fairness, dodo, some people make huge sacrifices to send their child to private school because the child is struggling, either academically or socially, in the larger classes in ordinary schools or because the only national school near them is not very good.
The big issue is that most people attending 3rd level are over the age of 18. Therefore it is legally not possible to assess them for anything based on the incomes of their parents. This is the reason that fees were abolished in the first place (dont fall for the PR claptrap circulated at the time, they'd no option).
Yes they can. People under 24 who are living at home have some of their parents income taken into account when they apply for Job Seekers Allowance. There is nothing illegal about taking parents/spouses/partners income into account when means testing Students to see if they can and should pay fees.
I know a family that have two children at 3rd level at present and its costing €9,500.00 per child for accomodation,weekly train fare,registeration(@c.€900) and incidentals.Thats 19k a year and now this year the registeration charge is almost doubled and theres a threat of fees on top of that....
Will means test allow for above expense?
(a) this would be too difficult to take into account and (b) families not in commuting distance of a college probably have lower accommodation costs themselves so should this also be taken into account? Where does it stop? My mortgage in Dublin is greater than it would be if I lived 100 miles away - my children probably won't have accommodation costs to pay at college but the total family accommodation costs will still be greater than that of a family living 100 miles away. I can't see your idea working in practice.the introduction of fees would have a far greater effect on the family that has to pay accomodation costs than the family that is located within commuting distance and this cost should be taken into account.
Why stop at 3rd level? Why not charge fees/loans for 2nd level students too?The best solution then is to give student loans which have to be repaid when they graduate and start earning. Its much fairer than taxpayers footing the bill.
Why stop at 3rd level? Why not charge fees/loans for 2nd level students too?
The best solution then is to give student loans which have to be repaid when they graduate and start earning. Its much fairer than taxpayers footing the bill.
I can't think of anything that would encourage a brain drain more.
The IMF running the country, massive pay cuts and massive unemployment?
With the loan play the first money the exchequer will see will be 6-8 years from now.
I presume things will be sorted out one way or another by then.
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