In most EU countries if the public holiday falls on a weekend there isn't an additional day in leu. Therefore we are already around the EU average. Suggesting otherwise is typical Trade Union misinformation/lies.
In most EU countries if the public holiday falls on a weekend there isn't an additional day in leu. Therefore we are already around the EU average. Suggesting otherwise is typical Trade Union misinformation/lies.An additional public holiday next year bringing us up to 10 and closer to the EU average of 12
It was the head of those damned pinko reactionaries at ISME that I heard on the radio in recent days making the point that we were behind Europe.In most EU countries if the public holiday falls on a weekend there isn't an additional day in leu. Therefore we are already around the EU average. Suggesting otherwise is typical Trade Union misinformation/lies.
You seem to have linked to the wrong place. That's a comment about a permanent bank holiday being better than gesture politics. It doesn't say anything about EU averages. If in fact he did then he's wrong. If you want to know the average then look at countries that don't have a day in leu and divide their number of holidays that are date specific by 7 and multiply by 5. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's basic maths. If you want to make an argument that we should get more public holidays that's fine, I kind of agree with you, but tell the truth about the numbers.It was the head of those damned pinko reactionaries at ISME that I heard on the radio in recent days making the point that we were behind Europe.
The arguement that I want to make is that thinking that we could do with an extra bank holiday because we are behind the rest of Europe isn't down to "typical Trade Union misinformation/lies" given that the most reactionary employer body is saying the same thing.You seem to have linked to the wrong place. That's a comment about a permanent bank holiday being better than gesture politics. It doesn't say anything about EU averages. If in fact he did then he's wrong. If you want to know the average then look at countries that don't have a day in leu and divide their number of holidays that are date specific by 7 and multiply by 5. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's basic maths. If you want to make an argument that we should get more public holidays that's fine, I kind of agree with you, but tell the truth about the numbers.
In fairness to the Unions telling lies by misrepresenting the facts is so engrained in their thinking that they probably don't know how to be truthful.
The public employers have stepped up. It might be time for the private employers to do the decent thing.Healthcare employees were 7 times more likely to get Covid than those working in other sectors.
If we are giving out this money then it should be restricted to that cohort, public and private.
IBEC, who represent "Commercial" semi-States and others in the protected sector, is the only employers body with a voice. ISME is waste of time.The arguement that I want to make is that thinking that we could do with an extra bank holiday because we are behind the rest of Europe isn't down to "typical Trade Union misinformation/lies" given that the most reactionary employer body is saying the same thing.
In the case of supermarkets I agree with you. The State shouldn't be giving tax free bonuses to employees in private businesses.The public employers have stepped up. It might be time for the private employers to do the decent thing.
It's always easier with other people's money though isn't it?The public employers have stepped up.
It might be to public servants and multinational employees but not to SMEs, the bedrock or employment provision and revenue generationAn additional public holiday next year bringing us up to 10 and closer to the EU average of 12 and a 4 day St. Patrick’s weekend this year is welcome news.
Doing ones job is not "heroic" and it's crass to suggest it isThe Government has been effusive in it’s praise of the heroic work done by healthcare workers in extremely COVID contagious situations and it’s great to see that praise converted into monetary terms .
That's an understatement-as previously stated, there isn't a trough big enough for the snouts rampaging towards itI note that a Government spokesperson said that of course representative bodies and Trade Unions representing those outside of the cohort chosen by the Government to receive this bonus could advance their respective cases through the industrial relations mechanisms of the State but that the Government was confident of containing the bonus to the prescribed cohort.
Optimism at it’s finest
This would be an abomination. Everyone got paid and some, perhaps many, had plenty of time on their hands while on full pay. There's already a huge backlog of essential screening services, for crucial early detection cancer screening for example, which is a much more serious issue than this virus.for 10 days paid leave for Healthcare workers which the Labour Court has suggested should be negotiated between the HSE and Union’s.
No, I haven't edited it. Like I said, it was on the radio over the past week or so. Here's the interview in question. I don't disagree with your view of ISME, just thought it was interesting to see them sharing a position that you attributed to 'trade union misinformation'.IBEC, who represent "Commercial" semi-States and others in the protected sector, is the only employers body with a voice. ISME is waste of time.
I still don't see a link to your assertion that ISME are agreeing that we are behind the European average. Have you edited your link?
Some of the supermarkets did step up in the early days I think in fairness. But I was referring specifically to the private healthcare staff you mentioned - time for their employer to step up.In the case of supermarkets I agree with you. The State shouldn't be giving tax free bonuses to employees in private businesses.
Unless you're talking about owner-managed enterprises, which doesn't seem to happen in the private hospital sector, all the decisions are going to be made by people 'with other people's money'.It's always easier with other people's money though isn't it?
The representative body for SMEs seems to disagree with you.It might be to public servants and multinational employees but not to SMEs, the bedrock or employment provision and revenue generation
They will do publicly as they don't want the baying mob after them however privately, it's just another burden on trying to run a business in Ireland.The representative body for SMEs seems to disagree with you.
I think by "other people's money" Firefly means publicly borrowed money added to the national debt rather than private capitalUnless you're talking about owner-managed enterprises, which doesn't seem to happen in the private hospital sector, all the decisions are going to be made by people 'with other people's money'.
The same ISME that partnered with Gript and Edmund Burke Institute is afraid of the baying mob? Seriously?They will do publicly as they don't want the baying mob after them however privately, it's just another burden on trying to run a business in Ireland.
I know what he meant. Private capital is still 'other people's money', often 'borrowed money'.I think by "other people's money" Firefly means publicly borrowed money added to the national debt rather than private capital
But it's not repayable by the State. It's not being redirected from other public services.I know what he meant. Private capital is still 'other people's money', often 'borrowed money'.
I never heard of either of them. Are they bad people?The same ISME that partnered with Gript and Edmund Burke Institute is afraid of the baying mob? Seriously?
It's not public money and the public is not responsible for paying it back or subject to future onerous government policies as a result.I know what he meant. Private capital is still 'other people's money', often 'borrowed money'.
That's correct, it's not public money, but that wasn't the point being made above.It's not public money and the public is not responsible for paying it back or subject to future onerous government policies as a result.
You must know this and are just being deliberately obtuse
Interesting.In most EU countries if the public holiday falls on a weekend there isn't an additional day in leu. Therefore we are already around the EU average. Suggesting otherwise is typical Trade Union misinformation/lies.
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